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Post by ravenpaige on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:05 pm

I am retracting my decision to resign, and have decided that I will not be bullied into submission.

I ask you, the community, to decide my legitimacy as a Moderator and soon-to-be Admin of What Is The Plan.

Just yesterday I was doxed, and all of my network of associations have been made public.

Among these associations were some posts on one Cassiopaea Forum that have been quoted out of context. I would like to take this opportunity to answer the criticisms about these quotes, place them in context, and apologize for mistakes I have made. After all, I am only human.

First, a brief detour, to provide context to this situation. Of late, I have been advocating for What Is The Plan to be an "arena of ideas" in which any ideas can be considered in a fair and rational manner. This was in response to the apparent desire in the community to develop a more enlightened ethic.

http://www.whatis-theplan.org/t12372-the-anonymous-ethic

I would also like to point out that from my perspective, this Project Mayhem 2012, of which you may or may not be aware, is promoting Discordianism in the guise of Anonymous activism. In other words, Project Mayhem 2012 IS promoting cult-like thinking, which I have pointed out and exposed. And it's quite notable that these attacks against me increased in ferocity once I started weighing in on Project Mayhem 2012.

http://www.whatis-theplan.org/t1676p465-project-mayhem-2012#141813
http://www.whatis-theplan.org/t1676p465-project-mayhem-2012#141880
http://www.whatis-theplan.org/t1676p510-project-mayhem-2012#143795

To begin with, admittedly, I should have communicated better that I was sharing some things about WITP with another forum where I was a user. I think my mistake here is a lack of communication. However, I think you might imagine why I didn't share my association with the website in question up front. Because of the term "cult" being thrown around.

Consider if there was a research group that has been online since the early 2000's, that has made a point of exposing every single bit of
disinfo and COINTELPRO garbage on the Internet. How do you think COINTELPRO would respond to that, given that we know how COINTELPRO works to disrupt research and activism on certain topics? This is the case with the Cassiopaea group.

Now to clarify some of these quotes.

https://i.imgur.com/UxYna.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/FeH2x.jpg

True enough. Protests are ultimately fruitless without a full picture of the hyperdimensional nature of the Matrix Control System. This is a lot of what I'm trying to communicate to these forum users. Some learn it's about the inner struggle, some do their own thing and focus on the external. The forum is more of a Mixtus Orbis in terms of signal to noise ratio than the Cassiopaea forum, to borrow a term from Mouravieff. If even a dozen can be turned on to LKJ's material, then I feel it's worth the effort.

At the very least in that community, we've established the principle of objective research of facts as opposed to opinion-based conspiracy theories, which will go a long way in further discussions. And at the moment, their efforts are primarily focused on just getting the word out, rather than attempting to do anything concrete to tear down "the system".

Then again, there is the butterfly effect to consider.


From the very beginning, I viewed The Plan as a Mixtus Orbis. An Arena of Ideas. My own personal view is that the information that Laura Knight Jadczyk presents is superb and unmatched in breadth and depth.

Firstly, the material she has covered on COINTELPRO has proved immensely helpful to educate this community on certain COINTELPRO outlets and honeypots, such as Above Top Secret, Godlike Productions, and MUFON.

http://www.whatis-theplan.org/t1285-cointelpro-is-stepping-up-their-game-let-s-counter-the-counter-intelligence

http://www.whatis-theplan.org/t2418-mufon-and-cointelpro-the-wave-series-and-adventures-with-cassiopaea-series

Secondly, she has conducted research in the realm of "edge of reality" topics. The fact about Laura Knight Jadczyk and her "Cassiopaea Experiment" is that it is a scientific experiment in what's known as "channeling", via a spirit board type device. If I've lost you after that sentence, the thing to remember is that LKJ herself has stated that information received via channeling is only as useful as the research put in to verify its validity.

Granted, you are welcome to take it or leave it, but again, I want to present this information in the spirit of this arena of ideas, in which any idea, no matter how "off the wall" can be considered in the spirit of rational discussion and intellectual honesty.

And yes, I can understand the apprehension at seeing a group talking about organized trolling of forums, and wondering if Cass might become a target. That is actually not something we support on that forum, and I'll look for that particular post. If there were ever any calls for any trolling of the Cass forum, I would be personally moving any threads about that to the trash bin.


This particular quote was regarding a thread that is now on the /b/ board, in which a user was advocating for organized trolling of the Above Top Secret forum. This forum does not support organized trolling, and I told that user in no uncertain terms that any such attempts against Above Top Secret would only bring an angry hornet's nest down on our heads, and moved that thread to /b/.

However, this does not mean that I would censor criticism of the Cassiopaea group or Laura Knight Jadczyk. Indeed, there has already been a thread in which I engaged in a decent conversation with someone talking about Jay Weidner's views and criticisms of Cassiopaea.

http://www.whatis-theplan.org/t2418p15-mufon-and-cointelpro-the-wave-series-and-adventures-with-cassiopaea-series#108397

And then, we have the criticism that has been leveled against me, as to whether I am "recruiting people for a cult". This is not the case at all. Firstly, the term "cult" is such a charged word that conjures up associations with Heaven's Gate and Jonestown, and has become something of the Godwin's Law of discussions about religion or spirituality.

Again, I would hope that the information that I have presented thus far would inspire readers in their own process of going down the rabbit hole.

Do I think that the Cassiopaea group would stand to benefit from Anonymous as a whole? No.

Do I think that some of the information presented by the Cassiopaea group can be helpful in order to educate all of us about just how deep the corrupted system goes? Yes. Thus, I think it can be of value to The Plan.

In plain terms, was it ever my intent to recruit a "cult"? It never was.

As for the Vibecraft Series and the Part 2 article that has been most contentious, admittedly the first draft of that article presented ideas that were as a whole objectionable to this community. However, based on the criticism and feedback I received about that article, I heavily revised it in order to remove the more esoteric content in favor of presenting it as a "True Neutral" medium, a platform of information exchange, collaboration, and organization.

I would thus encourage you all to consider the content of the article as it stands currently, and please provide feedback and criticism on it.

http://www.whatis-theplan.org/t968-anonymous-hivemind-102-crafting-virtual-tribes

Conclusion

I have made mistakes. I admit to this, and I can correct them. However, I would ask that rather than making your vote hastily, that you consider in a calm and deliberative manner this body of evidence that I have presented before you; in the very same spirit of an "arena of ideas" that I hope to promote here on What Is The Plan.

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Durandarte on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:37 pm
Good idea, I think its certainly controversial, but you have a right to do whatever you want, that's what freedom is all about, the fact that you've stayed here through this and haven't just left proves your dedication to The Plan, although to make everyone happy, the other mods and admins should make sure you're not letting that affect your moding here, but now that your identity is revealed, you may as well talk to the other mods about becoming a public figure for anonymous, we do need a few


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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Nytefall on Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:41 pm
A suggestion if I may. Don't do this now. Take 3 days *break* don't mod anything, just let what took place settle for you and everyone else. I wasn't on when I guess you decided to resign, but hell resignation 'papers' don't have to be accepted for immediate termination. Let the papers sit for 3 days. Then decide what YOU honestly feel is best for The Plan and your goals. At that time if you want to retract and put up a vote do so. right now stuff is just way to emotionally affected.

Just a thought after reading your OP before I head off again to try to get some more rest. probably not any help to the situation for everyone.. but it's my opinion

I personally won't vote for 3 days regardless.

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
rubberbubber on Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:39 pm
A crucial point was made in IRC yesterday that you have no addressed.

You were asked WHY you were trying so hard to retain power, and you never answered this.

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
TransientOx on Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:48 pm
And why are you trying to assert control and social engineering over the population of WITP, if it's not in order to recruit members for your cult?

Sorry mods, Chaos MagicK made me type that. Don't delete all the posts talking about r3x and his cult please.
Unless, you're complete morons.

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Buttery_Cheeks on Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:54 pm
You should go through and verify that every voter wasn't made 20 seconds ago on some mediocre proxy/VPN.

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
tottenheim7 on Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:58 pm
What is the point of a SECOND poll that you will not listen to anyway?

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TransientOx on Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:02 pm
tottenheim7 wrote:
What is the point of a SECOND poll that you will not listen to anyway?


You clearly don't get it: it's Chaos MagicK dude.
You fail but, OMG wait what?

K
it's just a fail.

Sorry mods, I'm under Chaos Magick full hypnosis.

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Corwin_of_Amber on Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:09 pm
Tele, you may remain a mod if you just stop commenting about PM2012. WITP bussiness when you are here. No cross over,no goddamn majick.


Then we will be able to see if you can function as a mod. You seen to be an intelligent poster, when you are not being fucking insane.


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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Ingraham Effingham on Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:11 pm
Maybe a restriction period, where you must refrain from posting anything cassopoeia or LKJ related, is in order.

Not for censorship reasons, but for establishing your credentials as an unbiased moderator.

This way you can show you are an effective mod, and showcase your mod skills and adherence to the tenets of the plan above all. Show you have the chops to mod without an agenda. Even a brief mention of LKJ is any form is gonna cause people like TransientOX to jump on you. Gotta minimize this to get a good idea of whether you are biased or not.

I'm not saying you do or don't have an agenda, (as we all do, to some extent) but a mod should minimize the effect of his/her personal beliefs when doing the job, as not to effect the plan as a whole.



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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
TransientOx on Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:11 pm
Corwin_of_Amber wrote:
Tele, you may remain a mod if you just stop commenting about PM2012. WITP bussiness when you are here. No cross over,no goddamn majick.

Then we will be able to see if you can function as a mod. You seen to be an intelligent poster, when you are not being fucking insane.


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Maybe Chaos MagicK?

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Sixtwelve on Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:18 pm
What's the point? If you get voted down you'll just claim it's COINTELPRO CHAOS MAGICK out to get you again.

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Imitation404 on Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:21 pm
You are an effective moderator, I will admit.
(At least less hasty with /b/oot, unlike caveman at times.)

But these revelations have been a surprise to the entire community, including the rest of the moderation team. This means you have not been entirely forthcoming with your links to and motivations from this separate community.

Also, I explained my issues with using words like "choas magick" in IRC. It implies that Project Mayhem is somehow supernatural in origin; or makeup. When simply, it is another ARG; which means it is your competition.

I would not think you to be the type to concern troll, but those are awfully poor word choices for someone like you.

In the end, with the subversive behavior of reporting your activities and powers here, deeming your competition chaos magick, and not being forthcoming with the rest of the moderation team about these connections; I cannot support a yes vote. IMO.


EDIT: None of what I have said will mean jack dick, because of massive amounts of chaos magick troll-foo. I retract my previous no-vote, in favor of giving sixtweleve a kick in the baby maker.

Although I am dissapointed in you Telemachos, all is forgiven, because I'm one bad mother fucker. It even says, bad mother fucker on my wallet.

Doublenigger edit: The method of attack is what concerned me, this chaos magic nonsense has been puked all over the forums like a fox news bulletin about obama not being a citizen, is very disturbing.


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CybAno on Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:28 pm
Stop that Bandwagon! I need to get on. No doubt, if the dude is linked with 4dimensioners, we are screwed. There are countless stories concerning the absolute sadistic actions the 4dims propagate. Makes me shudder to think about it.

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
-Joker- on Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:31 pm
Telemachos wrote:
I am retracting my decision to resign, and have decided that I will not be bullied into submission.

I ask you, the community, to decide my legitimacy as a Moderator and soon-to-be Admin of What Is The Plan.

Just yesterday I was doxed, and all of my network of associations have been made public.

Among these associations were some posts on one Cassiopaea Forum that have been quoted out of context. I would like to take this opportunity to answer the criticisms about these quotes, place them in context, and apologize for mistakes I have made. After all, I am only human.

First, a brief detour, to provide context to this situation. Of late, I have been advocating for What Is The Plan to be an "arena of ideas" in which any ideas can be considered in a fair and rational manner. This was in response to the apparent desire in the community to develop a more enlightened ethic.

http://www.whatis-theplan.org/t12372-the-anonymous-ethic

I would also like to point out that from my perspective, this Project Mayhem 2012, of which you may or may not be aware, is promoting Discordianism in the guise of Anonymous activism. In other words, Project Mayhem 2012 IS promoting cult-like thinking, which I have pointed out and exposed. And it's quite notable that these attacks against me increased in ferocity once I started weighing in on Project Mayhem 2012.

http://www.whatis-theplan.org/t1676p465-project-mayhem-2012#141813
http://www.whatis-theplan.org/t1676p465-project-mayhem-2012#141880
http://www.whatis-theplan.org/t1676p510-project-mayhem-2012#143795

To begin with, admittedly, I should have communicated better that I was sharing some things about WITP with another forum where I was a user. I think my mistake here is a lack of communication. However, I think you might imagine why I didn't share my association with the website in question up front. Because of the term "cult" being thrown around.

Consider if there was a research group that has been online since the early 2000's, that has made a point of exposing every single bit of
disinfo and COINTELPRO garbage on the Internet. How do you think COINTELPRO would respond to that, given that we know how COINTELPRO works to disrupt research and activism on certain topics? This is the case with the Cassiopaea group.

Now to clarify some of these quotes.

https://i.imgur.com/UxYna.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/FeH2x.jpg

True enough. Protests are ultimately fruitless without a full picture of the hyperdimensional nature of the Matrix Control System. This is a lot of what I'm trying to communicate to these forum users. Some learn it's about the inner struggle, some do their own thing and focus on the external. The forum is more of a Mixtus Orbis in terms of signal to noise ratio than the Cassiopaea forum, to borrow a term from Mouravieff. If even a dozen can be turned on to LKJ's material, then I feel it's worth the effort.

At the very least in that community, we've established the principle of objective research of facts as opposed to opinion-based conspiracy theories, which will go a long way in further discussions. And at the moment, their efforts are primarily focused on just getting the word out, rather than attempting to do anything concrete to tear down "the system".

Then again, there is the butterfly effect to consider.


From the very beginning, I viewed The Plan as a Mixtus Orbis. An Arena of Ideas. My own personal view is that the information that Laura Knight Jadczyk presents is superb and unmatched in breadth and depth.

Firstly, the material she has covered on COINTELPRO has proved immensely helpful to educate this community on certain COINTELPRO outlets and honeypots, such as Above Top Secret, Godlike Productions, and MUFON.

http://www.whatis-theplan.org/t1285-cointelpro-is-stepping-up-their-game-let-s-counter-the-counter-intelligence

http://www.whatis-theplan.org/t2418-mufon-and-cointelpro-the-wave-series-and-adventures-with-cassiopaea-series

Secondly, she has conducted research in the realm of "edge of reality" topics. The fact about Laura Knight Jadczyk and her "Cassiopaea Experiment" is that it is a scientific experiment in what's known as "channeling", via a spirit board type device. If I've lost you after that sentence, the thing to remember is that LKJ herself has stated that information received via channeling is only as useful as the research put in to verify its validity.

Granted, you are welcome to take it or leave it, but again, I want to present this information in the spirit of this arena of ideas, in which any idea, no matter how "off the wall" can be considered in the spirit of rational discussion and intellectual honesty.

And yes, I can understand the apprehension at seeing a group talking about organized trolling of forums, and wondering if Cass might become a target. That is actually not something we support on that forum, and I'll look for that particular post. If there were ever any calls for any trolling of the Cass forum, I would be personally moving any threads about that to the trash bin.


This particular quote was regarding a thread that is now on the /b/ board, in which a user was advocating for organized trolling of the Above Top Secret forum. This forum does not support organized trolling, and I told that user in no uncertain terms that any such attempts against Above Top Secret would only bring an angry hornet's nest down on our heads, and moved that thread to /b/.

However, this does not mean that I would censor criticism of the Cassiopaea group or Laura Knight Jadczyk. Indeed, there has already been a thread in which I engaged in a decent conversation with someone talking about Jay Weidner's views and criticisms of Cassiopaea.

http://www.whatis-theplan.org/t2418p15-mufon-and-cointelpro-the-wave-series-and-adventures-with-cassiopaea-series#108397

And then, we have the criticism that has been leveled against me, as to whether I am "recruiting people for a cult". This is not the case at all. Firstly, the term "cult" is such a charged word that conjures up associations with Heaven's Gate and Jonestown, and has become something of the Godwin's Law of discussions about religion or spirituality.

Again, I would hope that the information that I have presented thus far would inspire readers in their own process of going down the rabbit hole.

Do I think that the Cassiopaea group would stand to benefit from Anonymous as a whole? No.

Do I think that some of the information presented by the Cassiopaea group can be helpful in order to educate all of us about just how deep the corrupted system goes? Yes. Thus, I think it can be of value to The Plan.

In plain terms, was it ever my intent to recruit a "cult"? It never was.

As for the Vibecraft Series and the Part 2 article that has been most contentious, admittedly the first draft of that article presented ideas that were as a whole objectionable to this community. However, based on the criticism and feedback I received about that article, I heavily revised it in order to remove the more esoteric content in favor of presenting it as a "True Neutral" medium, a platform of information exchange, collaboration, and organization.

I would thus encourage you all to consider the content of the article as it stands currently, and please provide feedback and criticism on it.

http://www.whatis-theplan.org/t968-anonymous-hivemind-102-crafting-virtual-tribes

Conclusion

I have made mistakes. I admit to this, and I can correct them. However, I would ask that rather than making your vote hastily, that you consider in a calm and deliberative manner this body of evidence that I have presented before you; in the very same spirit of an "arena of ideas" that I hope to promote here on What Is The Plan.


you can have this back now





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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Sixtwelve on Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:33 pm
Not including this to spam, including this because it's relevant to the vote and Telemachos left it out.

Here's the conversation from last night. http://pastebin.com/2ASQ1yPg

My favorite part is where he says that COINTELPRO = Chaos Magick. But I think I've made that pretty clear.

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TransientOx on Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:42 pm
R3X, if you still have some dignity? Well, you know.

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Slevin on Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:43 pm
What's all this Chaos Magick stuff? Are we playing Dungeons & Dragons on here now?

Then I use my lucky rabbit foot to dispel the magic cast by the evil elven lord of Krakkenwood...

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CybAno on Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:51 pm
© 2011 Laura Knight-Jadczyk and Cassiopaea.org. All rights reserved.



This is pure garbage, talking about leadfaggotry. Anyone remotely connected to Laura Knight-Jadczyk should not be a admin or moder of this site. I personally will bail off the moonbat boat if Cassiopaea.org brains are present here.

Pure egofags and leaderfags represented in the purest form.

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calico cat on Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:17 pm
Chaos majick, Alister Crowley, channeling.... wtf does this have to do with reality and logical thinking? This type of thinking damages the credibility of this forum. It questions the legitimacy and destroys us from the onset and from within the inside.

Has this forum and its members been insulted and divided because of this thinking? If so, Telemachos/FFAD, you have done this forum harm.

To the ones that have been actively insulting and trying to destroy this forum, if you had an addenda that you wanted to present, facts could have been presented in a straight forward manner deserving of some intelligence. Instead, you have worked to simply divide and create mayhem for your own amusement.

This issue needs to be settled completely now. The members here deserve the ability to move forward without having to endure the bullshit that has invaded this forum. The time for excuses and justifications has long ended.

All that matters is what is best for this forum, its members and realistic goals.



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hmmmm on Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:22 pm
Nytefall wrote:
A suggestion if I may. Don't do this now. Take 3 days *break* don't mod anything, just let what took place settle for you and everyone else. I wasn't on when I guess you decided to resign, but hell resignation 'papers' don't have to be accepted for immediate termination. Let the papers sit for 3 days. Then decide what YOU honestly feel is best for The Plan and your goals. At that time if you want to retract and put up a vote do so. right now stuff is just way to emotionally affected.

Just a thought after reading your OP before I head off again to try to get some more rest. probably not any help to the situation for everyone.. but it's my opinion

I personally won't vote for 3 days regardless.

Sound advice. +5.


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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
-Joker- on Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:34 pm
Has anyone considered helping Tele rather than bashing him?


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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Dionysus on Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:35 pm
calico cat wrote:
Chaos majick, Alister Crowley, channeling.... wtf does this have to do with reality and logical thinking? This type of thinking damages the credibility of this forum. It questions the legitimacy and destroys us from the onset and from within the inside.

Has this forum and its members been insulted and divided because of this thinking? If so, Telemachos/FFAD, you have done this forum harm.

To the ones that have been actively insulting and trying to destroy this forum, if you had an addenda that you wanted to present, facts could have been presented in a straight forward manner deserving of some intelligence. Instead, you have worked to simply divide and create mayhem for your own amusement.

This issue needs to be settled completely now. The members here deserve the ability to move forward without having to endure the bullshit that has invaded this forum. The time for excuses and justifications has long ended.

All that matters is what is best for this forum, its members and realistic goals.




Calico, these douchenozzles are just here to divide and conquer. They have a years old grudge match with Telemachos, and they want to see everything so much as remotely connected to him torn asunder with no trace of remnants.

Just so happens they've targeted us, and even though the rational thinkers here have moved on from the drama, they insist on having their jollies at our frustration to actually create action, and keep OUR plans moving forward.

They're just as cancerous as that which they are trying to remove, and they will never be anything more.


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TransientOx on Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:35 pm
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Instead, you have worked to simply divide and create mayhem for your own amusement.


I can't deny it's fun watching WITP falling down

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Sixtwelve on Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:36 pm
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Has anyone considered helping Tele rather than bashing him?


You're absolutely right. I did meet cult exit counselor Steven Hassan once. I bet he could help Tele with his problem.

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well thats a start.....i see potential progress here. Because if this is a cult he is more of a victim rather that a leader.


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calico cat on Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:42 pm
Dionysus wrote:


They're just as cancerous as that which they are trying to remove, and they will never be anything more.


This is obvious.

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ravenpaige on Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:54 pm
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Chaos majick, Alister Crowley, channeling.... wtf does this have to do with reality and logical thinking? This type of thinking damages the credibility of this forum. It questions the legitimacy and destroys us from the onset and from within the inside.


Actually, I think that it can be an integral part of reality and logical thinking, although I certainly agree that the large part of it is likely moonbattery.

However, if you've ever done any reading into Quantum Physics, string theory and such, you'll know that Einteinian physics was pretty much turned on its head with the advent of quantum mechanical theory. While I don't believe there currently exists any empirical proof that these subatomic physics can be applied to the macro world, this does seem to be the belief of some practitioners of Majick.

What I believe is that the universe is very complex, and anyone who thinks we currently hold the full truth or complete knowledge is delusional or simply a fool. But, theory notwithstanding, practical applications will almost always hold sway over theory (i.e., the proof is in the pudding).

As for Telemachos continuing to be a moderator, I think that should be his decision. He might find it easier to quit trying to be all things to all people and simply be a contributor. But anyone who thinks any moderator can be completely objective is also being foolish or silly. If you want absolute logic, hire a computer. If you want good judgement, however, you must continue to rely on imperfect humans.


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You can go deeper. I mean with your tongue in Telemach's ass.

Try again with some Chaos MagicK
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Post by ravenpaige on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:06 pm

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Sixtwelve on Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:00 pm
ravenpaige wrote:

As for Telemachos continuing to be a moderator, I think that should be his decision. He might find it easier to quit trying to be all things to all people and simply be a contributor. But anyone who thinks any moderator can be completely objective is also being foolish or silly. If you want absolute logic, hire a computer. If you want good judgement, however, you must continue to rely on imperfect humans.

Again, you're missing the part where he said his goal for the Plan was to recruit people to Cassiopaea.

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calico cat on Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:05 pm
%ravenpaige, yes, the world is complex. Yes, there are theories that may reveal themselves to be more than just theories. Just because our reality is limited to our perception doesn't mean more can exist.

On the other hand, what are the goals of this forum and what is desiring to be accomplished?


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On the other hand, what are the goals of this forum and what is desiring to be accomplished?



I still wonder.

Even with my Chaos MagicK abilities, I can't figure it out.

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calico cat on Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:15 pm
TransientOx wrote:
calico cat wrote:
On the other hand, what are the goals of this forum and what is desiring to be accomplished?



I still wonder.

Even with my Chaos MagicK abilities, I can't figure it out.


You have Chaos Magick abilities? Begone, you have demonstrated your inferiority.

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calico cat wrote:
TransientOx wrote:
calico cat wrote:
On the other hand, what are the goals of this forum and what is desiring to be accomplished?



I still wonder.

Even with my Chaos MagicK abilities, I can't figure it out.


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Tide Paladin on Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:55 pm
Dionysus wrote:
calico cat wrote:
TransientOx wrote:
calico cat wrote:
On the other hand, what are the goals of this forum and what is desiring to be accomplished?



I still wonder.

Even with my Chaos MagicK abilities, I can't figure it out.


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A crucial point was made in IRC yesterday that you have no addressed.

You were asked WHY you were trying so hard to retain power, and you never answered this.



This still hasn't been answered.

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Why vote on this? Everyone knows that Telemachos won't step down no matter what. He is a really power hungry scumbag of a guy.

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Can someone point out what he said/happened and what cassioepeia is in 1 post?


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Can someone point out what he said/happened and what cassioepeia is in 1 post?

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Can someone point out what he said/happened and what cassioepeia is in 1 post?


Yep. pastebin.com/y4HHPaiL

Skip to the section on the bottom where it says "Usurping Anonymous" and read through

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Ok i am going to weigh in on this cute display of plausible deniability of coercing and or manipulating a persons perspective.

Well i have to say i at first i thought it was all in good fun when i saw Tele taking a out of the box approach, with this Chaos Majick discussion's. < it was refreshing at the time.>. But as time rolled along and More Manipulative Insight became apparent i started taking closer notice. So i watched with idle curiosity on what precisely it was you where attempting to do. Then it struck me when i saw recent evidence pointing to what was painfully obvious.

You would start a metaphysical off topic <ninja recruiting individual's> discussion and when you where questioned about your intent you started twisting your manipulative recruiting tactics by using enormous metaphysical terminologies to confuse and twist your words around to intentionally confuse people and side track their focus at the attempt to ask questions in regards to recruiting them for this occult ideology.

Now i can understand using it as a tool to further ones education, really i do but when you start sidestepping and two stepping the direct questions of recruitment you would continue to dance around the question with enormous metaphysical words intentionally confusing them to get them off the topic. With that said you have obvious experience in whatever field it is you are good in <manipulation> but you are dividing peoples focus that is consequently hindering any relevant discussions inert that may be important for learning or idea's.

That to me is possibly the worse thing you can do is take these people that came here to make a difference in their immediate environment and turn it into a free for yourself recruiting event. Your discussion topics are stimulating dont get me wrong but when you are taking peoples focus away from the reason they are here that is just wrong and inappropriate. And it presents a unstable, unfocused, questionable intent movement for anyone who doesnt know better. And that is where the straw in broken. Given you have admin or mod ranking and people realize what that is it puts them in a unique position.<kinda like your word is verse>. So no i do not think your personal views justifies your ability to make unbiased decisions for A mod/Admin. At this point in time.

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He's just saying that projectmayhem2012 is using chaos magick for bad stuff and they try to supposedly usurp anonymous etc.

What did telemachos did wrong there? He only adressed something that he thought was a danger, he's not talking about anonymous itself but only projectmayhem.

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Post by ravenpaige on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:07 pm

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Sixtwelve on Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:29 pm
Mr.Razz wrote:
He's just saying that projectmayhem2012 is using chaos magick for bad stuff and they try to supposedly usurp anonymous etc.

What did telemachos did wrong there? He only adressed something that he thought was a danger, he's not talking about anonymous itself but only projectmayhem.

www.projectmayhem2012.org

THIS IS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT


YOU ARE GROWN ADULTS TALKING ABOUT CHAOS MAGICK NON-IRONICALLY.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE.

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rubberbubber on Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:37 pm
Mr.Razz wrote:
He's just saying that projectmayhem2012 is using chaos magick for bad stuff and they try to supposedly usurp anonymous etc.

What did telemachos did wrong there? He only adressed something that he thought was a danger, he's not talking about anonymous itself but only projectmayhem.

projectmayhem2012.org

THIS IS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT


Can you read? Or should I throw up words into your mouth? The voodoo/magic shit is just a smokescreen he's throwing at you to divert attention from this:

I'm currently involved as a moderator on a certain high-traffic Anonymous style forum.

If even a few dozen can be turned on to LKJ's material, then I feel it's worth the effort.

If there were ever any calls for any trolling of the Cass forum, I would be personally moving any threads about that to the trash bin.


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zincodenaya on Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:43 pm
rubberbubber wrote:
A crucial point was made in IRC yesterday that you have no addressed.

You were asked WHY you were trying so hard to retain power, and you never answered this.


Page 3 still no answer. Kinda makes me wonder.

First he went on an embarrassing 4chan rampage. He made a review thread for himself, was voted against, but then ignored it and blamed the negative votes on COINTELPRO.

Then this cassiopea shit gets revealed, and his resignation is called for on IRC by an overwhelming majority, he dismisses it and blames the call to step down on (i shit you not) MAGIC.

Now it is pretty clear that he is once again, the THIRD time, is being asked to step down. I wonder what his excuse will be this time to hold onto his power like the greedy power-thirsty fuck he is.

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Sixtwelve on Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:44 pm
zincodenaya wrote:
rubberbubber wrote:
A crucial point was made in IRC yesterday that you have no addressed.

You were asked WHY you were trying so hard to retain power, and you never answered this.


Page 3 still no answer. Kinda makes me wonder.

Don't forget the several hours he ignored it on IRC.

First he went on an embarrassing 4chan rampage. He made a review thread for himself, was voted against, but then ignored it and blamed the negative votes on COINTELPRO.

Then this cassiopea shit gets revealed, and his resignation is called for on IRC by an overwhelming majority, he dismisses it and blames the call to step down on (i shit you not) CHAOS MAGICK.

Now it is pretty clear that he is once again, the THIRD time, is being asked to step down. I wonder what his excuse will be this time to hold onto his power like the greedy power-thirsty fuck he is.

Fixed that for you.

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cK_6eez on Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:45 pm
Mr.Razz wrote:
He's just saying that projectmayhem2012 is using chaos magick for bad stuff and they try to supposedly usurp anonymous etc.

What did telemachos did wrong there? He only adressed something that he thought was a danger, he's not talking about anonymous itself but only projectmayhem.

www.projectmayhem2012.org

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I think you just missed wtf just happened here


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cK_6eez on Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:48 pm
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LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES LIES
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Ch4o5 wrote:

Ok i am going to weigh in on this cute display of plausible deniability of coercing and or manipulating a persons perspective.

Well i have to say i at first i thought it was all in good fun when i saw Tele taking a out of the box approach, with this Chaos Majick discussion's. < it was refreshing at the time.>. But as time rolled along and More Manipulative Insight became apparent i started taking closer notice. So i watched with idle curiosity on what precisely it was you where attempting to do. Then it struck me when i saw recent evidence pointing to what was painfully obvious.

You would start a metaphysical off topic <ninja recruiting individual's> discussion and when you where questioned about your intent you started twisting your manipulative recruiting tactics by using enormous metaphysical terminologies to confuse and twist your words around to intentionally confuse people and side track their focus at the attempt to ask questions in regards to recruiting them for this occult ideology.

Now i can understand using it as a tool to further ones education, really i do but when you start sidestepping and two stepping the direct questions of recruitment you would continue to dance around the question with enormous metaphysical words intentionally confusing them to get them off the topic. With that said you have obvious experience in whatever field it is you are good in <manipulation> but you are dividing peoples focus that is consequently hindering any relevant discussions inert that may be important for learning or idea's.

That to me is possibly the worse thing you can do is take these people that came here to make a difference in their immediate environment and turn it into a free for yourself recruiting event. Your discussion topics are stimulating dont get me wrong but when you are taking peoples focus away from the reason they are here that is just wrong and inappropriate. And it presents a unstable, unfocused, questionable intent movement for anyone who doesnt know better. And that is where the straw in broken. Given you have admin or mod ranking and people realize what that is it puts them in a unique position.<kinda like your word is verse>. So no i do not think your personal views justifies your ability to make unbiased decisions for A mod/Admin. At this point in time.


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Tide Paladin on Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:49 pm
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Mr.Razz wrote:
He's just saying that projectmayhem2012 is using chaos magick for bad stuff and they try to supposedly usurp anonymous etc.

What did telemachos did wrong there? He only adressed something that he thought was a danger, he's not talking about anonymous itself but only projectmayhem.

www.projectmayhem2012.org

THIS IS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT


I think you just missed wtf just happened here


Well what is going on here? all i see is a bunch of dummy accounts spouting stuff without one lick of proof, and saying that he is one power hungry mongrel. why so much hate for one guy?


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Durandarte on Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:52 pm
rubberbubber wrote:
Mr.Razz wrote:
He's just saying that projectmayhem2012 is using chaos magick for bad stuff and they try to supposedly usurp anonymous etc.

What did telemachos did wrong there? He only adressed something that he thought was a danger, he's not talking about anonymous itself but only projectmayhem.

projectmayhem2012.org

THIS IS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT


Can you read? Or should I throw up words into your mouth? The voodoo/magic shit is just a smokescreen he's throwing at you to divert attention from this:

I'm currently involved as a moderator on a certain high-traffic Anonymous style forum.

If even a few dozen can be turned on to LKJ's material, then I feel it's worth the effort.

If there were ever any calls for any trolling of the Cass forum, I would be personally moving any threads about that to the trash bin.



So what if he was on this cass forum? Some people on this site think 911 was a hoax, some think a comet's going to crash into the earth in October, some think fluoride is used for mind-control, some are probabky scientologists or WBC just monitoring the site, these ideas certainly aren't strange to the site. Everyone's biased on some issues, it's the very nature of human thought, anything concerning this cass thing could just be directed to another mod for deciding its placement, only one or two have appeared in the passed two months.


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Durandarte on Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:54 pm
Tide Paladin wrote:
cK_anon wrote:
Mr.Razz wrote:
He's just saying that projectmayhem2012 is using chaos magick for bad stuff and they try to supposedly usurp anonymous etc.

What did telemachos did wrong there? He only adressed something that he thought was a danger, he's not talking about anonymous itself but only projectmayhem.

THIS IS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT


I think you just missed wtf just happened here


Well what is going on here? all i see is a bunch of dummy accounts spouting stuff without one lick of proof, and saying that he is one power hungry mongrel. why so much hate for one guy?


Apparently telemacho was dox'ed last night, but the evidence presented against him isn't bad, its just be over-exaggerated as being in some sort of conspiracy


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Guest on Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:55 pm
how are there 47 votes agains telemachos hes a great mod

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Sixtwelve on Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:57 pm
Durandarte wrote:

So what if he was on this cass forum? Some people on this site think 911 was a hoax, some think a comet's going to crash into the earth in October, some think fluoride is used for mind-control, some are probabky scientologists or WBC just monitoring the site, these ideas certainly aren't strange to the site. Everyone's biased on some issues, it's the very nature of human thought, anything concerning this cass thing could just be directed to another mod for deciding its placement, only one or two have appeared in the passed two months.

The difference is he's a moderator. And he was THIS CLOSE to being made an administrator. And BY HIS OWN STATEMENTS he is using WITP to recruit people to his cult.

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regardless what the poll say's,
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Schism on Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:11 pm
Myself probably like many others on this site joined for political reasons, the spiritual and magical never came into it.

I will say that we have a forum for conspiracy theories which may be true or may be false where people can talk about anything they like however out their it is, I suggest we do the same for theories of a magical nature where people can discuss their personel religious beliefs.

I do not think that magical/religious beliefs should play a part in serious political discussion, they don't mix. If Tele is happy to abide by this then he should continue in his role.

I know their are conspiricy theories out their that claim that the elite use magic, or believe in magic etc but it is a theory and should be kept in the place created for it

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Tide Paladin on Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:19 pm
cK_anon wrote:
regardless what the poll say's,
the polls works every other time! so its not right because its not in favor OF him this time? if there was any concern about the votes DONT MAKE A FUCKIN POLL than

the poll is a poll, them are the votes


It just seems that if it has anything to do with telemachos, the results instently get skewed. seems a lot of people really don't like him and want others to hate him too. you don't see a lot of dummy accounts for polls, but you do when it is related to tele. dunno why that is, but i am only judging him on his abilities as a mod, and from what i've seen, he is a good mod :/


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Kosmicdebris on Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:21 pm
It just seems that if it has anything to do with telemachos, the results instently get skewed. seems a lot of people really don't like him and want others to hate him too. you don't see a lot of dummy accounts for polls, but you do when it is related to tele. dunno why that is, but i am only judging him on his abilities as a mod, and from what i've seen, he is a good mod :/


Well.... isnt them spamming some one for his beliefs just the same "cult" like bullshit their accusing him of? ISnt the same shit that theyve been doing the same sort of shit theyre against? At least thats the way I see it


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Sixtwelve on Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:21 pm
Tide Paladin wrote:
cK_anon wrote:
regardless what the poll say's,
the polls works every other time! so its not right because its not in favor OF him this time? if there was any concern about the votes DONT MAKE A FUCKIN POLL than

the poll is a poll, them are the votes


It just seems that if it has anything to do with telemachos, the results instently get skewed. seems a lot of people really don't like him and want others to hate him too. you don't see a lot of dummy accounts for polls, but you do when it is related to tele. dunno why that is, but i am only judging him on his abilities as a mod, and from what i've seen, he is a good mod :/

Or maybe the negative votes are because people don't like him.

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Durandarte on Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:22 pm
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Durandarte wrote:

So what if he was on this cass forum? Some people on this site think 911 was a hoax, some think a comet's going to crash into the earth in October, some think fluoride is used for mind-control, some are probabky scientologists or WBC just monitoring the site, these ideas certainly aren't strange to the site. Everyone's biased on some issues, it's the very nature of human thought, anything concerning this cass thing could just be directed to another mod for deciding its placement, only one or two have appeared in the passed two months.

The difference is he's a moderator. And he was THIS CLOSE to being made an administrator. And BY HIS OWN STATEMENTS he is using WITP to recruit people to his cult.


he's not trying to actively recruit people, it just seems he's trying to talk about it if it comes up, I've only seen one thread where he got into a serious discussion about it, 99.9%(literally) of the time he never says a word about it

Its fine to have his own beliefs, as I said, he doesn't let them interfere 99.9% of the time


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Sixtwelve on Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:27 pm
Durandarte wrote:

he's not trying to actively recruit people, it just seems he's trying to talk about it if it comes up, I've only seen one thread where he got into a serious discussion about it, 99.9%(literally) of the time he never says a word about it

Its fine to have his own beliefs, as I said, he doesn't let them interfere 99.9% of the time

Read his log or the quotes of what he said on the other site. HE says he's trying to recruit.

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Tide Paladin on Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:27 pm
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Tide Paladin on Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:30 pm
Sixtwelve wrote:
Durandarte wrote:

he's not trying to actively recruit people, it just seems he's trying to talk about it if it comes up, I've only seen one thread where he got into a serious discussion about it, 99.9%(literally) of the time he never says a word about it

Its fine to have his own beliefs, as I said, he doesn't let them interfere 99.9% of the time

Read his log or the quotes of what he said on the other site. HE says he's trying to recruit.



and what other site is this? sorry if i remain skeptical of what you say, but all i have seen from you is belittling of other user with no real constructive things to say. You mock and deride me, then expect me to believe you with no proof? I'm sorry, but i will need a little more then statements from you to believe that story


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Sixtwelve on Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:36 pm
Tide Paladin wrote:
Sixtwelve wrote:
Durandarte wrote:

he's not trying to actively recruit people, it just seems he's trying to talk about it if it comes up, I've only seen one thread where he got into a serious discussion about it, 99.9%(literally) of the time he never says a word about it

Its fine to have his own beliefs, as I said, he doesn't let them interfere 99.9% of the time

Read his log or the quotes of what he said on the other site. HE says he's trying to recruit.



and what other site is this? sorry if i remain skeptical of what you say, but all i have seen from you is belittling of other user with no real constructive things to say. You mock and deride me, then expect me to believe you with no proof? I'm sorry, but i will need a little more then statements from you to believe that story


"If even a few dozen can be turned on to LKJ's material, then I feel it's worth the effort."
LKJ is the leader of r3xy's little cult.

"At the very least in that community, we've established the principle of objective research of facts as opposed to opinion-based conspiracy theories, which will go a long way in further discussions. And at the moment, their efforts are primarily focused on just getting the word out, rather than attempting to do anything concrete to tear down "the system.""
As far as I can tell, this is from a discussion of getting WITP to gradually follow Cassiopaea's ideas.

"If there were ever any calls for any trolling of the Cass forum, I would be personally moving any threads about that to the trash bin."

"Some of you may know that I frequent various "Anonymous" websites and communities. Yes, that Anonymous. I'm currently involved as a moderator on a certain high-traffic Anonymous style forum. I recently stumbled across what I can only think is an Alternative Reality Game, the purpose of which is to promote Rosicrucianism and Black Magic (Chaos Theoryin the guise of "Anonymous" style Activism. The implications of this frighten me to no end."

MAGICK.

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http://cassiopaea.org posts as "JakeSully"

To quote the pastebin:
"Cassiopaea is a cult of insane proportions which is loosely summed up by saying "strange old moonbat lady reads ouija board to deduce reptiles are controlling Earth. These facts are ALL described her in magnificent work "The Wave Series" which if you look closely at the logo, looks an awful lot like the logo r3x used huh?"

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-Joker- on Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:48 pm
Sixtwelve wrote:
Tide Paladin wrote:
Sixtwelve wrote:
Durandarte wrote:

he's not trying to actively recruit people, it just seems he's trying to talk about it if it comes up, I've only seen one thread where he got into a serious discussion about it, 99.9%(literally) of the time he never says a word about it

Its fine to have his own beliefs, as I said, he doesn't let them interfere 99.9% of the time

Read his log or the quotes of what he said on the other site. HE says he's trying to recruit.



and what other site is this? sorry if i remain skeptical of what you say, but all i have seen from you is belittling of other user with no real constructive things to say. You mock and deride me, then expect me to believe you with no proof? I'm sorry, but i will need a little more then statements from you to believe that story


"If even a few dozen can be turned on to LKJ's material, then I feel it's worth the effort."
LKJ is the leader of r3xy's little cult.

"At the very least in that community, we've established the principle of objective research of facts as opposed to opinion-based conspiracy theories, which will go a long way in further discussions. And at the moment, their efforts are primarily focused on just getting the word out, rather than attempting to do anything concrete to tear down "the system.""
As far as I can tell, this is from a discussion of getting WITP to gradually follow Cassiopaea's ideas.

"If there were ever any calls for any trolling of the Cass forum, I would be personally moving any threads about that to the trash bin."

"Some of you may know that I frequent various "Anonymous" websites and communities. Yes, that Anonymous. I'm currently involved as a moderator on a certain high-traffic Anonymous style forum. I recently stumbled across what I can only think is an Alternative Reality Game, the purpose of which is to promote Rosicrucianism and Black Magic (Chaos Theoryin the guise of "Anonymous" style Activism. The implications of this frighten me to no end."

MAGICK.

"ultimately fruitless without a full picture of the hyperdimensional nature of the Matrix Control System. This is a lot of what I'm trying to communicate to these forum users."

https://i.imgur.com/UxYna.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FeH2x.jpg

http://cassiopaea.org posts as "JakeSully"

To quote the pastebin:
"Cassiopaea is a cult of insane proportions which is loosely summed up by saying "strange old moonbat lady reads ouija board to deduce reptiles are controlling Earth. These facts are ALL described her in magnificent work "The Wave Series" which if you look closely at the logo, looks an awful lot like the logo r3x used huh?"





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renegadegatorade on Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:01 pm
How can these users supporting him have no understanding of bias of people in power? Whats wrong with tele being a mod? In his own words, he's gauranteed his cult members that he will ACTIVELY recruit and use mod powers to get rid of threads that call for an op on Cassiopia. That right there is TELE IN HIS OWN WORDS promising to abuse his mod powers. Its no different than if someone was admin here from a city police unit and gauranteed to trash /b/in all threads against his local units.

How can people who claim to fight corruption not see it when the beast is at their front door?

How many members are from Cassiopia are also over here, pretending to be anons to show support to gain more recruits.

And where is the post he made where he said his ops and threads arent subject to the same "vote in" process as the other minions here are because his op is "special" or a "process" or some shit. He's absolutely fucked up on many levels DIRECTLY pertaining to his position on WITP. this isnt about "religeous persecution" its about his actions as mod on this forum.

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Tide Paladin on Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:08 pm
Sixtwelve wrote:
Tide Paladin wrote:
Sixtwelve wrote:
Durandarte wrote:

he's not trying to actively recruit people, it just seems he's trying to talk about it if it comes up, I've only seen one thread where he got into a serious discussion about it, 99.9%(literally) of the time he never says a word about it

Its fine to have his own beliefs, as I said, he doesn't let them interfere 99.9% of the time

Read his log or the quotes of what he said on the other site. HE says he's trying to recruit.



and what other site is this? sorry if i remain skeptical of what you say, but all i have seen from you is belittling of other user with no real constructive things to say. You mock and deride me, then expect me to believe you with no proof? I'm sorry, but i will need a little more then statements from you to believe that story


"If even a few dozen can be turned on to LKJ's material, then I feel it's worth the effort."
LKJ is the leader of r3xy's little cult.

"At the very least in that community, we've established the principle of objective research of facts as opposed to opinion-based conspiracy theories, which will go a long way in further discussions. And at the moment, their efforts are primarily focused on just getting the word out, rather than attempting to do anything concrete to tear down "the system.""
As far as I can tell, this is from a discussion of getting WITP to gradually follow Cassiopaea's ideas.

"If there were ever any calls for any trolling of the Cass forum, I would be personally moving any threads about that to the trash bin."

"Some of you may know that I frequent various "Anonymous" websites and communities. Yes, that Anonymous. I'm currently involved as a moderator on a certain high-traffic Anonymous style forum. I recently stumbled across what I can only think is an Alternative Reality Game, the purpose of which is to promote Rosicrucianism and Black Magic (Chaos Theoryin the guise of "Anonymous" style Activism. The implications of this frighten me to no end."

MAGICK.

"ultimately fruitless without a full picture of the hyperdimensional nature of the Matrix Control System. This is a lot of what I'm trying to communicate to these forum users."

https://i.imgur.com/UxYna.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FeH2x.jpg

http://cassiopaea.org posts as "JakeSully"

To quote the pastebin:
"Cassiopaea is a cult of insane proportions which is loosely summed up by saying "strange old moonbat lady reads ouija board to deduce reptiles are controlling Earth. These facts are ALL described her in magnificent work "The Wave Series" which if you look closely at the logo, looks an awful lot like the logo r3x used huh?"


okay, i have looked through all what you have posted, and from what i can see, he has somwthing that is very simmilar to religion. I also saw that he is willing to explain to people ablout his belief. He believes that people won't succeed without really believing in the cause What i didn't see is that whs his main goal for being on here, and that all of us are lost causes. Hey, a lot of people are here for simmilar reasons. So i get what you say, i really do, and i also see why you are skeptical of him. But from what you have seen of him as a mod ON THIS SITE that he is just a recruiter, and is interested in nothing else? i don't see why people must care where other people come from or what baggage they have, as long as it doesn't interfere with the plan and the other members. In my opinion, he doesn't let his beliefs get in the way of his job, so i will reiterate that i think he should be allowed to stay. Do you see where I am coming from on this at least?

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There's more moonbatshit on this thread than there has been on threads I've thrown in the /b/asement.

Do you fucktards seriously think that a whole bunch of intelligent individuals would buy into something without consent? The way in which you patronise the users on here is simply causing more people to hate you and defend tele. If you really want to put forwards an intelligent argument, go ahead, but from what I've seen so far that would be beyond most of you.

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As i see it sixtwelve is using reverse psychology to also promote Cassiopia herself. She is using every opportunity to bring up Cassiopia and Chaos Magick in hopes we become brainwashed. She is the true leader and advocate of Chaos Magick!!!!


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Imitation404 on Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:11 pm
Too bad we have over 9000 concern trolls galabanding about like so many whiteknights, throwing out news points like fox news bulletins.

We might actually be able to have a real conversation about this, but ultimately, the troll-foo will bury the legit point I tried to make.




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renegadegatorade on Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:13 pm
Tide Paladin wrote:
Sixtwelve wrote:
Tide Paladin wrote:
Sixtwelve wrote:
Durandarte wrote:

he's not trying to actively recruit people, it just seems he's trying to talk about it if it comes up, I've only seen one thread where he got into a serious discussion about it, 99.9%(literally) of the time he never says a word about it

Its fine to have his own beliefs, as I said, he doesn't let them interfere 99.9% of the time

Read his log or the quotes of what he said on the other site. HE says he's trying to recruit.



and what other site is this? sorry if i remain skeptical of what you say, but all i have seen from you is belittling of other user with no real constructive things to say. You mock and deride me, then expect me to believe you with no proof? I'm sorry, but i will need a little more then statements from you to believe that story


"If even a few dozen can be turned on to LKJ's material, then I feel it's worth the effort."
LKJ is the leader of r3xy's little cult.

"At the very least in that community, we've established the principle of objective research of facts as opposed to opinion-based conspiracy theories, which will go a long way in further discussions. And at the moment, their efforts are primarily focused on just getting the word out, rather than attempting to do anything concrete to tear down "the system.""
As far as I can tell, this is from a discussion of getting WITP to gradually follow Cassiopaea's ideas.

"If there were ever any calls for any trolling of the Cass forum, I would be personally moving any threads about that to the trash bin."

"Some of you may know that I frequent various "Anonymous" websites and communities. Yes, that Anonymous. I'm currently involved as a moderator on a certain high-traffic Anonymous style forum. I recently stumbled across what I can only think is an Alternative Reality Game, the purpose of which is to promote Rosicrucianism and Black Magic (Chaos Theoryin the guise of "Anonymous" style Activism. The implications of this frighten me to no end."

MAGICK.

"ultimately fruitless without a full picture of the hyperdimensional nature of the Matrix Control System. This is a lot of what I'm trying to communicate to these forum users."

https://i.imgur.com/UxYna.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FeH2x.jpg

http://cassiopaea.org posts as "JakeSully"

To quote the pastebin:
"Cassiopaea is a cult of insane proportions which is loosely summed up by saying "strange old moonbat lady reads ouija board to deduce reptiles are controlling Earth. These facts are ALL described her in magnificent work "The Wave Series" which if you look closely at the logo, looks an awful lot like the logo r3x used huh?"


okay, i have looked through all what you have posted, and from what i can see, he has somwthing that is very simmilar to religion. I also saw that he is willing to explain to people ablout his belief. He believes that people won't succeed without really believing in the cause What i didn't see is that whs his main goal for being on here, and that all of us are lost causes. Hey, a lot of people are here for simmilar reasons. So i get what you say, i really do, and i also see why you are skeptical of him. But from what you have seen of him as a mod ON THIS SITE that he is just a recruiter, and is interested in nothing else? i don't see why people must care where other people come from or what baggage they have, as long as it doesn't interfere with the plan and the other members. In my opinion, he doesn't let his beliefs get in the way of his job, so i will reiterate that i think he should be allowed to stay. Do you see where I am coming from on this at least?

I'll get off my soap box now... o:



are you willfully ignoring where he, in his own words has promised that it will affect the plan, and that he will "make it so"? It affects the plan. This fact is not in question.

If he had started off as a member who had some links to his batshit cult thing, thatd be one thing. But he is a MOD and he's openly made promises to another group to "funnel" members from this site to his, therefor degrading you cause. He has made promises to /b/in all threads that are calling for action against Cassiopia, thus degrading your cause as well as being an OPEN ADMISSION OF ABUSE OF POWER.

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Durandarte on Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:16 pm
This seems like one large trolling attack, no actual facts stating he did anything really wrong and distracted everyone:

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renegadegatorade wrote:
How can these users supporting him have no understanding of bias of people in power? Whats wrong with tele being a mod? In his own words, he's gauranteed his cult members that he will ACTIVELY recruit and use mod powers to get rid of threads that call for an op on Cassiopia. That right there is TELE IN HIS OWN WORDS promising to abuse his mod powers. Its no different than if someone was admin here from a city police unit and gauranteed to trash /b/in all threads against his local units.

How can people who claim to fight corruption not see it when the beast is at their front door?

How many members are from Cassiopia are also over here, pretending to be anons to show support to gain more recruits.

And where is the post he made where he said his ops and threads arent subject to the same "vote in" process as the other minions here are because his op is "special" or a "process" or some shit. He's absolutely fucked up on many levels DIRECTLY pertaining to his position on WITP. this isnt about "religeous persecution" its about his actions as mod on this forum.


Already posted this once, but it bears creedence here too.


I'm not sure if you noticed, but this is a LEGAL movement, so making an op against a police station would probably get you in trouble.

Secondly, anonymous is about destroying internet censorship, so how would making an op against moonbats be helping that cause? He also gave proof himself that he has taken criticism of Cassiopeia.

Thirdly, if you think there's so many moonbats around here, isn't your job as super self-important troll supposed to be hunting down these people and stopping them? Time to save the day!




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renegadegatorade on Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:19 pm
Durandarte wrote:
This seems like one large trolling attack, no actual facts stating he did anything really wrong and distracted everyone:

youtube.com/watch?v=5dI6mPDCqEo&NR=1


HE says he fucked up. Are you that blind? Seriously. whats wrong with you people?

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renegadegatorade on Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:26 pm
Dionysus wrote:
renegadegatorade wrote:
How can these users supporting him have no understanding of bias of people in power? Whats wrong with tele being a mod? In his own words, he's gauranteed his cult members that he will ACTIVELY recruit and use mod powers to get rid of threads that call for an op on Cassiopia. That right there is TELE IN HIS OWN WORDS promising to abuse his mod powers. Its no different than if someone was admin here from a city police unit and gauranteed to trash /b/in all threads against his local units.

How can people who claim to fight corruption not see it when the beast is at their front door?

How many members are from Cassiopia are also over here, pretending to be anons to show support to gain more recruits.

And where is the post he made where he said his ops and threads arent subject to the same "vote in" process as the other minions here are because his op is "special" or a "process" or some shit. He's absolutely fucked up on many levels DIRECTLY pertaining to his position on WITP. this isnt about "religeous persecution" its about his actions as mod on this forum.


Already posted this once, but it bears creedence here too.


I'm not sure if you noticed, but this is a LEGAL movement, so making an op against a police station would probably get you in trouble.

Secondly, anonymous is about destroying internet censorship, so how would making an op against moonbats be helping that cause? He also gave proof himself that he has taken criticism of Cassiopeia.

Thirdly, if you think there's so many moonbats around here, isn't your job as super self-important troll supposed to be hunting down these people and stopping them? Time to save the day!




Surely you have other tricks up your sleeve than full blown riots? When i say ops, it could mean a variety of actions to expose local police corruption. Writing to press, notifying the ACLU, protesting AMONGST MANY OTHER ACTIONS. This just confirms there are nothing but teenagers here who dont understand there are remedies to seek justice against abuses other than rioting.

re #2 paragraph, i dont even think you understand the human centipede ass to mouthness-consuming already consumed shit of what you just said. Anonymous stands for no censorship, so we must allow tele to censor dissenters for trying speaking against him. God, maybe its time for your mod review if you have such questionable logic and application of mod powers.

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Durandarte on Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:28 pm
renegadegatorade wrote:
Durandarte wrote:
This seems like one large trolling attack, no actual facts stating he did anything really wrong and distracted everyone:

youtube.com/watch?v=5dI6mPDCqEo&NR=1


HE says he fucked up. Are you that blind? Seriously. whats wrong with you people?


Yeah, but so what, does it ACTUALLY affect the Plan, No, and he's been a very dedicated mod


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Durandarte wrote:
renegadegatorade wrote:
Durandarte wrote:
This seems like one large trolling attack, no actual facts stating he did anything really wrong and distracted everyone:

youtube.com/watch?v=5dI6mPDCqEo&NR=1


HE says he fucked up. Are you that blind? Seriously. whats wrong with you people?


Yeah, but so what, does it ACTUALLY affect the Plan, No, and he's been a very dedicated mod

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renegadegatorade on Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:30 pm
Durandarte wrote:
renegadegatorade wrote:
Durandarte wrote:
This seems like one large trolling attack, no actual facts stating he did anything really wrong and distracted everyone:

youtube.com/watch?v=5dI6mPDCqEo&NR=1


HE says he fucked up. Are you that blind? Seriously. whats wrong with you people?


Yeah, but so what, does it ACTUALLY affect the Plan, No, and he's been a very dedicated mod



You were wrong the first time, so im not going to hold your hand and list AGAIN how it affects the plan when its spelled out in black and white here in this thread.

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Kosmicdebris on Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:33 pm
Surely you have other tricks up your sleeve than full blown riots? When i say ops, it could mean a variety of actions to expose local police corruption. Writing to press, notifying the ACLU, protesting AMONGST MANY OTHER ACTIONS. This just confirms there are nothing but teenagers here who dont understand there are remedies to seek justice against abuses other than rioting.


Im pretty sure we could focus on better things, if people would let us continue and stop distracting us. Your saying you want us to do better things? Then stop pulling attention away form the real issues...


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renegadegatorade on Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:36 pm
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Surely you have other tricks up your sleeve than full blown riots? When i say ops, it could mean a variety of actions to expose local police corruption. Writing to press, notifying the ACLU, protesting AMONGST MANY OTHER ACTIONS. This just confirms there are nothing but teenagers here who dont understand there are remedies to seek justice against abuses other than rioting.


Im pretty sure we could focus on better things, if people would let us continue and stop distracting us. Your saying you want us to do better things? Then stop pulling attention away form the real issues...


What an embarrassing admission for you. That you are unable to multitask or focus on a variety of issues at once.

So who has a plan for phase 2 other than telemachos?

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Kosmicdebris wrote:
Surely you have other tricks up your sleeve than full blown riots? When i say ops, it could mean a variety of actions to expose local police corruption. Writing to press, notifying the ACLU, protesting AMONGST MANY OTHER ACTIONS. This just confirms there are nothing but teenagers here who dont understand there are remedies to seek justice against abuses other than rioting.


Im pretty sure we could focus on better things, if people would let us continue and stop distracting us. Your saying you want us to do better things? Then stop pulling attention away form the real issues...


What an embarrassing admission for you. That you are unable to multitask or focus on a variety of issues at once.

So who has a plan for phase 2 other than telemachos?


You really ought to lurk moar. Phase 2 is to organise, Phase 3 is mobilise. Too hard to grasp or do you think you can manage that?


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renegadegatorade wrote:
How can these users supporting him have no understanding of bias of people in power? Whats wrong with tele being a mod? In his own words, he's gauranteed his cult members that he will ACTIVELY recruit and use mod powers to get rid of threads that call for an op on Cassiopia. That right there is TELE IN HIS OWN WORDS promising to abuse his mod powers. Its no different than if someone was admin here from a city police unit and gauranteed to trash /b/in all threads against his local units.

How can people who claim to fight corruption not see it when the beast is at their front door?

How many members are from Cassiopia are also over here, pretending to be anons to show support to gain more recruits.

And where is the post he made where he said his ops and threads arent subject to the same "vote in" process as the other minions here are because his op is "special" or a "process" or some shit. He's absolutely fucked up on many levels DIRECTLY pertaining to his position on WITP. this isnt about "religeous persecution" its about his actions as mod on this forum.


Already posted this once, but it bears creedence here too.


I'm not sure if you noticed, but this is a LEGAL movement, so making an op against a police station would probably get you in trouble.

Secondly, anonymous is about destroying internet censorship, so how would making an op against moonbats be helping that cause? He also gave proof himself that he has taken criticism of Cassiopeia.

Thirdly, if you think there's so many moonbats around here, isn't your job as super self-important troll supposed to be hunting down these people and stopping them? Time to save the day!




Surely you have other tricks up your sleeve than full blown riots? When i say ops, it could mean a variety of actions to expose local police corruption. Writing to press, notifying the ACLU, protesting AMONGST MANY OTHER ACTIONS. This just confirms there are nothing but teenagers here who dont understand there are remedies to seek justice against abuses other than rioting.

re #2 paragraph, i dont even think you understand the human centipede ass to mouthness-consuming already consumed shit of what you just said. Anonymous stands for no censorship, so we must allow tele to censor dissenters for trying speaking against him. God, maybe its time for your mod review if you have such questionable logic and application of mod powers.


Kosmicdebris wrote:

Im pretty sure we could focus on better things, if people would let us continue and stop distracting us. Your saying you want us to do better things? Then stop pulling attention away form the real issues...


This is the first and foremost order of business. Catfighting gets nothing done. Shit is going to be taken care of, I can assure you.


Show me where Tele has actually censored dissenters? Once again we don't do raids, that's what he was saying in the dox quite blatantly towards making ops against cassiopeia. If we made an op on something that wasn't to do with this plan, what do you think would happen? Someone would go "This has nothing to do with the plan" and it's get /b/inned.

If you want to help with ops, please by all means get off your ass and start rallying people to do the ops, I'll sure as fuck help out in any way I can. Until then, I think you have no place what so ever to criticize anyone else on what they consider seeking justice for the corruption in this world.

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Kosmicdebris on Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:52 pm
What an embarrassing admission for you. That you are unable to multitask or focus on a variety of issues at once.

So who has a plan for phase 2 other than telemachos?


Ah, LOL dont try to turn it around/change the subject, if you are trolling to start shit, man up and finish it.... answer the question bitchcunt...


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Kosmicdebris on Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:57 pm
This is the first and foremost order of business. Catfighting gets nothing done. Shit is going to be taken care of, I can assure you.


It wasnt my intention, im merely trying to show some logic to renegade...


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renegadegatorade on Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:00 pm
wait did i just get called a bitchcunt? ROFls i think the last person who was speaking against members of the plans and degraded to name calling got banned. Way to have double standards.


spread info, organise, mobilise. Really? REALLY? Wow youre gonna change the world with that wont you. What happened to "the plan is still evolving"?

I dont need to rally a bunch of retards when Im already involved with organizations that get results. Thanks though. WITP isnt the only site hellbent on justice and human rights, you know. And frankly I have yet to see any results other than you piggy backing off other Anon groups and taking credit for anonops actions.

but lets get back to what we came here for. Looking at the votes, id say its time to step down. Dont open a poll and then ignore the results

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largo farburn on Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:03 pm
God damn!!! 71% think you should step down? That's a lot man....

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-Joker- on Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:09 pm
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God damn!!! 71% think you should step down? That's a lot man....


This is all do to sixtwelve and her cult master style brain washing tactics. All so she can create her own cult using the ideas of vibecraft and chaos magick. in a sense she is the actual mastermind behind all of these shenanigans and tomfoolery.


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largo farburn on Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:16 pm
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largo farburn wrote:
God damn!!! 71% think you should step down? That's a lot man....


This is all do to sixtwelve and her cult master style brain washing tactics. All so she can create her own cult using the ideas of vibecraft and chaos magick. in a sense she is the actual mastermind behind all of these shenanigans and tomfoolery.


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Kosmicdebris on Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:33 pm
ROFls i think the last person who was speaking against members of the plans and degraded to name calling got banned. Way to have double standards.


then...


I dont need to rally a bunch of retards when Im already involved with organizations that get results.


/facepalm......


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ravenpaige on Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:39 pm
Sixtwelve wrote:
Mr.Razz wrote:
He's just saying that projectmayhem2012 is using chaos magick for bad stuff and they try to supposedly usurp anonymous etc.

What did telemachos did wrong there? He only adressed something that he thought was a danger, he's not talking about anonymous itself but only projectmayhem.

www.projectmayhem2012.org

THIS IS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT


YOU ARE GROWN ADULTS TALKING ABOUT CHAOS MAGICK NON-IRONICALLY.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE.


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ravenpaige on Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:41 pm
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A crucial point was made in IRC yesterday that you have no addressed.

You were asked WHY you were trying so hard to retain power, and you never answered this.


Page 3 still no answer. Kinda makes me wonder.

First he went on an embarrassing 4chan rampage. He made a review thread for himself, was voted against, but then ignored it and blamed the negative votes on COINTELPRO.

Then this cassiopea shit gets revealed, and his resignation is called for on IRC by an overwhelming majority, he dismisses it and blames the call to step down on (i shit you not) MAGIC.

Now it is pretty clear that he is once again, the THIRD time, is being asked to step down. I wonder what his excuse will be this time to hold onto his power like the greedy power-thirsty fuck he is.


How come you know so much, but this is your first post? Psychic much?


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Permafrost on Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:43 pm
Has the name "Chaos Magick" been taken yet? I think that might be my new sock.


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largo farburn on Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:43 pm
ravenpaige wrote:
zincodenaya wrote:
rubberbubber wrote:
A crucial point was made in IRC yesterday that you have no addressed.

You were asked WHY you were trying so hard to retain power, and you never answered this.


Page 3 still no answer. Kinda makes me wonder.

First he went on an embarrassing 4chan rampage. He made a review thread for himself, was voted against, but then ignored it and blamed the negative votes on COINTELPRO.

Then this cassiopea shit gets revealed, and his resignation is called for on IRC by an overwhelming majority, he dismisses it and blames the call to step down on (i shit you not) MAGIC.

Now it is pretty clear that he is once again, the THIRD time, is being asked to step down. I wonder what his excuse will be this time to hold onto his power like the greedy power-thirsty fuck he is.


How come you know so much, but this is your first post? Psychic much?


It's magic... lol.

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Permafrost on Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:45 pm
Drill Sgt XFactoR wrote:
largo farburn wrote:
God damn!!! 71% think you should step down? That's a lot man....


This is all do to sixtwelve and her cult master style brain washing tactics. All so she can create her own cult using the ideas of vibecraft and chaos magick. in a sense she is the actual mastermind behind all of these shenanigans and tomfoolery.


Inorite? She tried to recruit me to it, but my superior willpower held her off. BEWARE OF HER WILES!


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iZaros on Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:50 pm
Telemachos if I were you I would not abandon the plan or anonymous. I can see why you are being doxed and critisized so this would be my suggestion:

1) Make sure you are completely anonymous on the internet, I'm sure you already did this but make sure you have done everything in your power to hide your identity.

2) make a new account (register it on 10minutemail for extra security)

3) Do not reveal anything about your history with anonymous or anything else on the internet, if anyone asks lies always help.

4) Do not tell anyone what you are doing, if you decide to make a new account don't post about that somewhere don't tell anyone about it.

5) Post as you normally would but forget everything that has happened on this site so far, I know this is hard but it's worth it.

Start all over again, don't do anything different as you normally would but keep in mind that you have to be a little bit discreet when it comes to things like vibecraft that could give your identity away. If you have ever played a game and started all over again you will see that it is easier then the first time and you'll notice things you haven't noticed before.

I would give it some thought and decide what's best to do, it's your choice if you decide to do this don't post it here because people will obviously keep an eye out for a new account.


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Poppins88 on Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:50 pm
Even though Tele is a friend of mine I'm REALLY disappointed he chooses to white wash Laura Knight-Jadczyk as a "researcher" which is purely and truly ridiculous even in the broadest of definition. Quote her website:



The name “Cassiopaea” was given by a consciously “channeled source” which Laura accessed in 1994 after two years of experimental work. The source identified itself by saying “we are you in the future.” Modern physics does not provide us with practical means for this type of communication, and theories on this subject are not well developed; they are, in fact, inconclusive and controversial.

When interpreting “we are you in the future in an oversimplified way, we are faced with causal paradoxes. On the other hand, from the theoretical papers published in physics journals we can learn that, with a proper and careful interpretation, and taking into account quantum uncertainties, communication into the past cannot be dismissed as impossible. Improbable perhaps is the right word, but there are many things that are improbable and yet happen.

The more improbable is a given phenomenon, the more information is carried by its occurrence, the more we can learn by its study.
That is why we did not dismiss the “we are you in the future” as impossible and therefore ignorable. Instead we decided to continue the “communications” as a form of a controlled experiment in “superluminal thought transfer” — even if it was clear that the term should be considered as a tentative indication of only one out several possible interpretations.


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ravenpaige on Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:53 pm
Sixtwelve wrote:
Durandarte wrote:

So what if he was on this cass forum? Some people on this site think 911 was a hoax, some think a comet's going to crash into the earth in October, some think fluoride is used for mind-control, some are probabky scientologists or WBC just monitoring the site, these ideas certainly aren't strange to the site. Everyone's biased on some issues, it's the very nature of human thought, anything concerning this cass thing could just be directed to another mod for deciding its placement, only one or two have appeared in the passed two months.

The difference is he's a moderator. And he was THIS CLOSE to being made an administrator. And BY HIS OWN STATEMENTS he is using WITP to recruit people to his cult.


Ok, Sixtwelve, I don't get it. What is WRONG with you? Are you a snubbed lover or something? You've been hounding Telemachos pretty much since you got here.

Are moderators supposed to have "full disclosure" on an Anonymous site? Are they supposed to tell you what religion they subscribe to (or not)? Tell you how many times they brush their teeth each day? If he were recruiting people for "better dental hygiene, would you be asking for his resignation?

We ARE adults here. If someone wants to explore a different philosophy or religion or board, that is their choice to make. Do you really mean to say that no one on this board should have any other interests (or even, agendas) than WITP?

Ok, I'm stopping now before I get really insulting.


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ravenpaige on Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:57 pm
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Telemachos can be a good mod, but all mods should keep their personel beliefs to themselves for the good of this movement.


Oh, like THAT happens...ever!

Actually, a belief system is part of what makes up a person. You want logic, hire a computer. (They have those now, you know...just add to your list of "banned" keywords, and then the kiddies can't look up a chicken "breast" recipe) LOL


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Jig on Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:58 pm
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Even though Tele is a friend of mine I'm REALLY disappointed he chooses to white wash Laura Knight-Jadczyk as a "researcher" which is purely and truly ridiculous even in the broadest of definition. Quote her website:



The name “Cassiopaea” was given by a consciously “channeled source” which Laura accessed in 1994 after two years of experimental work. The source identified itself by saying “we are you in the future.” Modern physics does not provide us with practical means for this type of communication, and theories on this subject are not well developed; they are, in fact, inconclusive and controversial.

When interpreting “we are you in the future in an oversimplified way, we are faced with causal paradoxes. On the other hand, from the theoretical papers published in physics journals we can learn that, with a proper and careful interpretation, and taking into account quantum uncertainties, communication into the past cannot be dismissed as impossible. Improbable perhaps is the right word, but there are many things that are improbable and yet happen.

The more improbable is a given phenomenon, the more information is carried by its occurrence, the more we can learn by its study.
That is why we did not dismiss the “we are you in the future” as impossible and therefore ignorable. Instead we decided to continue the “communications” as a form of a controlled experiment in “superluminal thought transfer” — even if it was clear that the term should be considered as a tentative indication of only one out several possible interpretations.


My thoughts?

DO NOT WANT

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Post by ravenpaige on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:10 pm

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The difference is he's a moderator. And he was THIS CLOSE to being made an administrator. And BY HIS OWN STATEMENTS he is using WITP to recruit people to his cult.


Ok, Sixtwelve, I don't get it. What is WRONG with you? Are you a snubbed lover or something? You've been hounding Telemachos pretty much since you got here.

Are moderators supposed to have "full disclosure" on an Anonymous site? Are they supposed to tell you what religion they subscribe to (or not)? Tell you how many times they brush their teeth each day? If he were recruiting people for "better dental hygiene, would you be asking for his resignation?

We ARE adults here. If someone wants to explore a different philosophy or religion or board, that is their choice to make. Do you really mean to say that no one on this board should have any other interests (or even, agendas) than WITP?

Ok, I'm stopping now before I get really insulting.


So, is it okay if "COINTELPRO" decides to start recruiting people to be moles and work against WITP? You would ban them outright, wouldn't you? So why is it okay for Magick boy here to recruit people for a cult of looney tunes? You sound like a current r3x lover to me.


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largo farburn on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:01 am
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Sixtwelve wrote:
Durandarte wrote:

So what if he was on this cass forum? Some people on this site think 911 was a hoax, some think a comet's going to crash into the earth in October, some think fluoride is used for mind-control, some are probabky scientologists or WBC just monitoring the site, these ideas certainly aren't strange to the site. Everyone's biased on some issues, it's the very nature of human thought, anything concerning this cass thing could just be directed to another mod for deciding its placement, only one or two have appeared in the passed two months.

The difference is he's a moderator. And he was THIS CLOSE to being made an administrator. And BY HIS OWN STATEMENTS he is using WITP to recruit people to his cult.


Ok, Sixtwelve, I don't get it. What is WRONG with you? Are you a snubbed lover or something? You've been hounding Telemachos pretty much since you got here.

Are moderators supposed to have "full disclosure" on an Anonymous site? Are they supposed to tell you what religion they subscribe to (or not)? Tell you how many times they brush their teeth each day? If he were recruiting people for "better dental hygiene, would you be asking for his resignation?

We ARE adults here. If someone wants to explore a different philosophy or religion or board, that is their choice to make. Do you really mean to say that no one on this board should have any other interests (or even, agendas) than WITP?

Ok, I'm stopping now before I get really insulting.


I would agree with you, but he is a mod. By being one you kinda put yourself up on a pedestal for everyone to scrutinize.
that being said your life outside of witp is totally irrelevant here, unless you promote it like he did with this vibe craft stuff.
but I may be biased since the first thing he said to me was I needed to prove myself to witp by lurking moar and not running my mouth.

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Schism on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:02 am
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Telemachos can be a good mod, but all mods should keep their personel beliefs to themselves for the good of this movement.


Oh, like THAT happens...ever!

Actually, a belief system is part of what makes up a person. You want logic, hire a computer. (They have those now, you know...just add to your list of "banned" keywords, and then the kiddies can't look up a chicken "breast" recipe) LOL


I'm not saying they should not have beliefs, I'm saying they shouldn't allow those beliefs to cloud their judgement, in regards to being a mod.


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placebo on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:06 am
Telemachos has been a good moderator from what I’ve seen. Why does it matter if he believes in something different? The reason we are here is because we all share a common idea. That idea is what connects us and gives us courage to fight. Yet now we are arguing over irrelevant drama. I believe he deserves a second chance, as we all do.

On a side note, why are we allowing these trolls to divide us? We are losing our focus. I’m so confused as to why the admins /moderators haven’t banned them yet. They are not here to contribute and yet we allow let them take this site down. Sad.


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renegadegatorade on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:12 am
you dont have to ban the trolls to disallow them from dividing you. You could ...just have a stronger resolve instead.

Things will be bad for this site as long as telemachos is pushing his agenda here and trying to funnel members to other sites.

AND lol, call for bannings all you want. when you knock 1 down, 10 more will stand in their place. As those with eyes have already witnessed.

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Slevin on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:15 am
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Telemachos has been a good moderator from what I’ve seen. Why does it matter if he believes in something different? The reason we are here is because we all share a common idea. That idea is what connects us and gives us courage to fight. Yet now we are arguing over irrelevant drama. He deserves a second chance, as we all do.

On a side note, why are we allowing these trolls to divide us? We are losing our focus. I’m so confused as to why the admins /moderators haven’t banned them yet. They are not here to contribute and yet we allow let them take this site down. Sad.


Exactly my thoughts. They're permitted even though they are VERY counter-productive. I think it has something to do with the ranking process. Post shit-loads of rubbish and one liners on every page you find and you get a higher ranking. Those of us who are serious and making real progress don't feel the need to spam every page with nonsense as it simply doesn't contribute. As a result, a lot of the decent activists are labelled 'Recruits'. And a lot of useless trolls here just for a giggle or a fight get 'Anon Organiser' status...


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ravenpaige on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:16 am
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Even though Tele is a friend of mine I'm REALLY disappointed he chooses to white wash Laura Knight-Jadczyk as a "researcher" which is purely and truly ridiculous even in the broadest of definition. Quote her website:



The name “Cassiopaea” was given by a consciously “channeled source” which Laura accessed in 1994 after two years of experimental work. The source identified itself by saying “we are you in the future.” Modern physics does not provide us with practical means for this type of communication, and theories on this subject are not well developed; they are, in fact, inconclusive and controversial.

When interpreting “we are you in the future in an oversimplified way, we are faced with causal paradoxes. On the other hand, from the theoretical papers published in physics journals we can learn that, with a proper and careful interpretation, and taking into account quantum uncertainties, communication into the past cannot be dismissed as impossible. Improbable perhaps is the right word, but there are many things that are improbable and yet happen.

The more improbable is a given phenomenon, the more information is carried by its occurrence, the more we can learn by its study.
That is why we did not dismiss the “we are you in the future” as impossible and therefore ignorable. Instead we decided to continue the “communications” as a form of a controlled experiment in “superluminal thought transfer” — even if it was clear that the term should be considered as a tentative indication of only one out several possible interpretations.


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Wow! You should Lurk Moar! Do you really completely dismiss anything outside the realm of what you can see or experience? Why do you believe in atoms? Are there really no black holes? If the dinosaurs COULDN'T have existed (since the world was only created by god, at most, 2 or 3 thousand years ago), then how come we have oil?

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BlazingBuddist on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:18 am
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you dont have to ban the trolls to disallow them from dividing you. You could ...just have a stronger resolve instead.

Things will be bad for this site as long as telemachos is pushing his agenda here and trying to funnel members to other sites.

AND lol, call for bannings all you want. when you knock 1 down, 10 more will stand in their place. As those with eyes have already witnessed.


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Jig on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:19 am
ravenpaige wrote:
Poppins88 wrote:
Even though Tele is a friend of mine I'm REALLY disappointed he chooses to white wash Laura Knight-Jadczyk as a "researcher" which is purely and truly ridiculous even in the broadest of definition. Quote her website:



The name “Cassiopaea” was given by a consciously “channeled source” which Laura accessed in 1994 after two years of experimental work. The source identified itself by saying “we are you in the future.” Modern physics does not provide us with practical means for this type of communication, and theories on this subject are not well developed; they are, in fact, inconclusive and controversial.

When interpreting “we are you in the future in an oversimplified way, we are faced with causal paradoxes. On the other hand, from the theoretical papers published in physics journals we can learn that, with a proper and careful interpretation, and taking into account quantum uncertainties, communication into the past cannot be dismissed as impossible. Improbable perhaps is the right word, but there are many things that are improbable and yet happen.

The more improbable is a given phenomenon, the more information is carried by its occurrence, the more we can learn by its study.
That is why we did not dismiss the “we are you in the future” as impossible and therefore ignorable. Instead we decided to continue the “communications” as a form of a controlled experiment in “superluminal thought transfer” — even if it was clear that the term should be considered as a tentative indication of only one out several possible interpretations.


My thoughts?

DO NOT WANT


Wow! You should Lurk Moar! Do you really completely dismiss anything outside the realm of what you can see or experience? Why do you believe in atoms? Are there really no black holes? If the dinosaurs COULDN'T have existed (since the world was only created by god, at most, 2 or 3 thousand years ago), then how come we have oil?

Report back with your answers tomorrow. It WILL be graded.

What has any of this got to do with Anonymous.


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ravenpaige on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:19 am
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You sound like a current r3x lover to me.


You really ARE grasping at straws, aren't you?


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calico cat on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:22 am
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On a side note, why are we allowing these trolls to divide us? We are losing our focus. I’m so confused as to why the admins /moderators haven’t banned them yet. They are not here to contribute and yet we allow let them take this site down. Sad.


They can't take this site down, but they can be an annoying aspect of posting here.

They have multiple accounts, ban one account and they quickly make another. Their only "claim to fame" is the ability to insult and make idiotic posts.

Such are the few from WWP (Why We Protest) forum. I think they have anger issues.


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Sixtwelve on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:24 am
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largo farburn wrote:
God damn!!! 71% think you should step down? That's a lot man....


This is all do to sixtwelve and her cult master style brain washing tactics. All so she can create her own cult using the ideas of vibecraft and chaos magick. in a sense she is the actual mastermind behind all of these shenanigans and tomfoolery.


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ravenpaige on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:26 am
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You sound like a current r3x lover to me.


You really ARE grasping at straws, aren't you?


And how come NO ONE has answered what happens to Schrodinger's Cat?
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renegadegatorade on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:29 am
Jig wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:
Poppins88 wrote:
Even though Tele is a friend of mine I'm REALLY disappointed he chooses to white wash Laura Knight-Jadczyk as a "researcher" which is purely and truly ridiculous even in the broadest of definition. Quote her website:



The name “Cassiopaea” was given by a consciously “channeled source” which Laura accessed in 1994 after two years of experimental work. The source identified itself by saying “we are you in the future.” Modern physics does not provide us with practical means for this type of communication, and theories on this subject are not well developed; they are, in fact, inconclusive and controversial.

When interpreting “we are you in the future in an oversimplified way, we are faced with causal paradoxes. On the other hand, from the theoretical papers published in physics journals we can learn that, with a proper and careful interpretation, and taking into account quantum uncertainties, communication into the past cannot be dismissed as impossible. Improbable perhaps is the right word, but there are many things that are improbable and yet happen.

The more improbable is a given phenomenon, the more information is carried by its occurrence, the more we can learn by its study.
That is why we did not dismiss the “we are you in the future” as impossible and therefore ignorable. Instead we decided to continue the “communications” as a form of a controlled experiment in “superluminal thought transfer” — even if it was clear that the term should be considered as a tentative indication of only one out several possible interpretations.


My thoughts?

DO NOT WANT


Wow! You should Lurk Moar! Do you really completely dismiss anything outside the realm of what you can see or experience? Why do you believe in atoms? Are there really no black holes? If the dinosaurs COULDN'T have existed (since the world was only created by god, at most, 2 or 3 thousand years ago), then how come we have oil?

Report back with your answers tomorrow. It WILL be graded.

What has any of this got to do with Anonymous.


obviously this poster is a Cassiopia like recruit. at Cassiopia they discuss scientific discoveries on the edge of reality. I think space is involved. And magic.

hey telemachos. If youre paying for psychic classes, youre doing it wrong. 9/10 people in sedona are hucksters and the rest of you are marks.
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Post by ravenpaige on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:10 pm

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Wow! You should Lurk Moar! Do you really completely dismiss anything outside the realm of what you can see or experience? Why do you believe in atoms? Are there really no black holes? If the dinosaurs COULDN'T have existed (since the world was only created by god, at most, 2 or 3 thousand years ago), then how come we have oil?

Report back with your answers tomorrow. It WILL be graded.


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Fucking Black Holes HOW DO THEY WORK?! - space.about.com/b/2011/02/10/how-do-we-know-black-holes-exist-if-we-cant-see-them.htm
Fucking Oil HOW DOES IT WORK?! - livescience.com/9404-mysterious-origin-supply-oil.html

That's how we know all those things. If I ware as stupid as you, I wouldn't be as smug as you are. Also who mentioned God?

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Permafrost on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:30 am
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You really ARE grasping at straws, aren't you?


No, it was in reply to you calling SixTwelve a snubbed r3x lover. Try and keep up. Also, respond to my question.

Another one I have: Isn't this spam? He's trying to direct people to his site and cause, which has nothing to do with this site. Double standards must be cool.


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ravenpaige on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:31 am
renegadegatorade wrote:
Jig wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:
Poppins88 wrote:
Even though Tele is a friend of mine I'm REALLY disappointed he chooses to white wash Laura Knight-Jadczyk as a "researcher" which is purely and truly ridiculous even in the broadest of definition. Quote her website:



The name “Cassiopaea” was given by a consciously “channeled source” which Laura accessed in 1994 after two years of experimental work. The source identified itself by saying “we are you in the future.” Modern physics does not provide us with practical means for this type of communication, and theories on this subject are not well developed; they are, in fact, inconclusive and controversial.

When interpreting “we are you in the future in an oversimplified way, we are faced with causal paradoxes. On the other hand, from the theoretical papers published in physics journals we can learn that, with a proper and careful interpretation, and taking into account quantum uncertainties, communication into the past cannot be dismissed as impossible. Improbable perhaps is the right word, but there are many things that are improbable and yet happen.

The more improbable is a given phenomenon, the more information is carried by its occurrence, the more we can learn by its study.
That is why we did not dismiss the “we are you in the future” as impossible and therefore ignorable. Instead we decided to continue the “communications” as a form of a controlled experiment in “superluminal thought transfer” — even if it was clear that the term should be considered as a tentative indication of only one out several possible interpretations.


My thoughts?

DO NOT WANT


Wow! You should Lurk Moar! Do you really completely dismiss anything outside the realm of what you can see or experience? Why do you believe in atoms? Are there really no black holes? If the dinosaurs COULDN'T have existed (since the world was only created by god, at most, 2 or 3 thousand years ago), then how come we have oil?

Report back with your answers tomorrow. It WILL be graded.

What has any of this got to do with Anonymous.


obviously this poster is a Cassiopia like recruit. at Cassiopia they discuss scientific discoveries on the edge of reality. I think space is involved. And magic.

hey telemachos. If youre paying for psychic classes, youre doing it wrong. 9/10 people in sedona are hucksters and the rest of you are marks.


Jig, I think you just got insulted by an idiot.


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Gadamlu on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:32 am
ravenpaige wrote:
Poppins88 wrote:
Even though Tele is a friend of mine I'm REALLY disappointed he chooses to white wash Laura Knight-Jadczyk as a "researcher" which is purely and truly ridiculous even in the broadest of definition. Quote her website:



The name “Cassiopaea” was given by a consciously “channeled source” which Laura accessed in 1994 after two years of experimental work. The source identified itself by saying “we are you in the future.” Modern physics does not provide us with practical means for this type of communication, and theories on this subject are not well developed; they are, in fact, inconclusive and controversial.

When interpreting “we are you in the future in an oversimplified way, we are faced with causal paradoxes. On the other hand, from the theoretical papers published in physics journals we can learn that, with a proper and careful interpretation, and taking into account quantum uncertainties, communication into the past cannot be dismissed as impossible. Improbable perhaps is the right word, but there are many things that are improbable and yet happen.

The more improbable is a given phenomenon, the more information is carried by its occurrence, the more we can learn by its study.
That is why we did not dismiss the “we are you in the future” as impossible and therefore ignorable. Instead we decided to continue the “communications” as a form of a controlled experiment in “superluminal thought transfer” — even if it was clear that the term should be considered as a tentative indication of only one out several possible interpretations.


My thoughts?

DO NOT WANT


Wow! You should Lurk Moar! Do you really completely dismiss anything outside the realm of what you can see or experience? Why do you believe in atoms? Are there really no black holes? If the dinosaurs COULDN'T have existed (since the world was only created by god, at most, 2 or 3 thousand years ago), then how come we have oil?

Report back with your answers tomorrow. It WILL be graded.


that would be a win, where it ageinst such a christian shuch as that

im my own opinion, i beleive he should stay, and thus i voted so, i have yet to see anything such as what have been stated by the trolls...do post links to mr tele actualy doing this IN THIS FORUM
as for the pastebin...do you have any idea how @#!*% easy it is to edit the copypasta BEFORE you put it to pasebin....? has no one thought of this?

VVVV my thoughts on the last few days of this site


and lastly...this is all about him "recruting" for his suposed religios beleifes, and you F*cking trolls are bashing him to a fine paste...yet in the past we have had christians come here and all theyve done is try to reqruit us to their religion, yet all we did then was just ask them nicely not to and send to the /b/in....anyone else see a problem with that?


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ravenpaige on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:33 am
Poppins88 wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:

Wow! You should Lurk Moar! Do you really completely dismiss anything outside the realm of what you can see or experience? Why do you believe in atoms? Are there really no black holes? If the dinosaurs COULDN'T have existed (since the world was only created by god, at most, 2 or 3 thousand years ago), then how come we have oil?

Report back with your answers tomorrow. It WILL be graded.


Fucking Atoms HOW DO THEY WORK?! - wiki.answers.com/Q/How_can_you_see_an_atom
Fucking Black Holes HOW DO THEY WORK?! - space.about.com/b/2011/02/10/how-do-we-know-black-holes-exist-if-we-cant-see-them.htm
Fucking Oil HOW DOES IT WORK?! - livescience.com/9404-mysterious-origin-supply-oil.html

That's how we know all those things. If I ware as stupid as you, I wouldn't be as smug as you are. Also who mentioned God?

Water, Fire Air and Dirt ....FUCKING MAGNETS HOW DO THEY WORK?! youtube.com/watch?v=RQWksKNrJm0


If you're so smart, how come you haven't yet learned that you KNOW NOTHING?


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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Caveman on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:34 am
Gadamlu wrote:
and lastly...this is all about him "recruting" for his suposed religios beleifes, and you F*cking trolls are bashing him to a fine paste...yet in the past we have had christians come here and all theyve done is try to reqruit us to their religion, yet all we did then was just ask them nicely not to and send to the /b/in....


Yes...I asked them. Nicely.




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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Poppins88 on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:36 am
ravenpaige wrote:
Poppins88 wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:

Wow! You should Lurk Moar! Do you really completely dismiss anything outside the realm of what you can see or experience? Why do you believe in atoms? Are there really no black holes? If the dinosaurs COULDN'T have existed (since the world was only created by god, at most, 2 or 3 thousand years ago), then how come we have oil?

Report back with your answers tomorrow. It WILL be graded.


Fucking Atoms HOW DO THEY WORK?! - wiki.answers.com/Q/How_can_you_see_an_atom
Fucking Black Holes HOW DO THEY WORK?! - space.about.com/b/2011/02/10/how-do-we-know-black-holes-exist-if-we-cant-see-them.htm
Fucking Oil HOW DOES IT WORK?! - livescience.com/9404-mysterious-origin-supply-oil.html

That's how we know all those things. If I ware as stupid as you, I wouldn't be as smug as you are. Also who mentioned God?

Water, Fire Air and Dirt ....FUCKING MAGNETS HOW DO THEY WORK?! youtube.com/watch?v=RQWksKNrJm0


If you're so smart, how come you haven't yet learned that you KNOW NOTHING?


I think you need to go be dumb and smug somewhere else

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Permafrost on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:36 am
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If you're so smart, how come you haven't yet learned that you KNOW NOTHING?


You sound mad. You should join my cult. It's called Awesomology. Total stress reliever.


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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
ravenpaige on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:37 am
Poppins88 wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:
Poppins88 wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:

Wow! You should Lurk Moar! Do you really completely dismiss anything outside the realm of what you can see or experience? Why do you believe in atoms? Are there really no black holes? If the dinosaurs COULDN'T have existed (since the world was only created by god, at most, 2 or 3 thousand years ago), then how come we have oil?

Report back with your answers tomorrow. It WILL be graded.


Fucking Atoms HOW DO THEY WORK?! - wiki.answers.com/Q/How_can_you_see_an_atom
Fucking Black Holes HOW DO THEY WORK?! - space.about.com/b/2011/02/10/how-do-we-know-black-holes-exist-if-we-cant-see-them.htm
Fucking Oil HOW DOES IT WORK?! - livescience.com/9404-mysterious-origin-supply-oil.html

That's how we know all those things. If I ware as stupid as you, I wouldn't be as smug as you are. Also who mentioned God?

Water, Fire Air and Dirt ....FUCKING MAGNETS HOW DO THEY WORK?! youtube.com/watch?v=RQWksKNrJm0


If you're so smart, how come you haven't yet learned that you KNOW NOTHING?


I think you need to go be dumb and smug somewhere else

HA! Make me.


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ravenpaige on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:38 am
ravenpaige wrote:
Poppins88 wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:
Poppins88 wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:

Wow! You should Lurk Moar! Do you really completely dismiss anything outside the realm of what you can see or experience? Why do you believe in atoms? Are there really no black holes? If the dinosaurs COULDN'T have existed (since the world was only created by god, at most, 2 or 3 thousand years ago), then how come we have oil?

Report back with your answers tomorrow. It WILL be graded.


Fucking Atoms HOW DO THEY WORK?! - wiki.answers.com/Q/How_can_you_see_an_atom
Fucking Black Holes HOW DO THEY WORK?! - space.about.com/b/2011/02/10/how-do-we-know-black-holes-exist-if-we-cant-see-them.htm
Fucking Oil HOW DOES IT WORK?! - livescience.com/9404-mysterious-origin-supply-oil.html

That's how we know all those things. If I ware as stupid as you, I wouldn't be as smug as you are. Also who mentioned God?

Water, Fire Air and Dirt ....FUCKING MAGNETS HOW DO THEY WORK?! youtube.com/watch?v=RQWksKNrJm0


If you're so smart, how come you haven't yet learned that you KNOW NOTHING?


I think you need to go be dumb and smug somewhere else

HA! Make me.


BITCH FIGHT! (I suspect we're going to be fighting in the basement)


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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Poppins88 on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:39 am
ravenpaige wrote:
Poppins88 wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:
Poppins88 wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:

Wow! You should Lurk Moar! Do you really completely dismiss anything outside the realm of what you can see or experience? Why do you believe in atoms? Are there really no black holes? If the dinosaurs COULDN'T have existed (since the world was only created by god, at most, 2 or 3 thousand years ago), then how come we have oil?

Report back with your answers tomorrow. It WILL be graded.


Fucking Atoms HOW DO THEY WORK?! - wiki.answers.com/Q/How_can_you_see_an_atom
Fucking Black Holes HOW DO THEY WORK?! - space.about.com/b/2011/02/10/how-do-we-know-black-holes-exist-if-we-cant-see-them.htm
Fucking Oil HOW DOES IT WORK?! - livescience.com/9404-mysterious-origin-supply-oil.html

That's how we know all those things. If I ware as stupid as you, I wouldn't be as smug as you are. Also who mentioned God?

Water, Fire Air and Dirt ....FUCKING MAGNETS HOW DO THEY WORK?! youtube.com/watch?v=RQWksKNrJm0


If you're so smart, how come you haven't yet learned that you KNOW NOTHING?


I think you need to go be dumb and smug somewhere else

HA! Make me.


You're already made and quite a mess.

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
placebo on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:40 am
Slevin wrote:
Exactly my thoughts. They're permitted even though they are VERY counter-productive. I think it has something to do with the ranking process. Post shit-loads of rubbish and one liners on every page you find and you get a higher ranking. Those of us who are serious and making real progress don't feel the need to spam every page with nonsense as it simply doesn't contribute. As a result, a lot of the decent activists are labelled 'Recruits'. And a lot of useless trolls here just for a giggle or a fight get 'Anon Organiser' status...

Hmm.. I never thought of it like that. I really hope that is not the reason as to why they are allowed.

calico cat wrote:
They can't take this site down, but they can be an annoying aspect of posting here.

They have multiple accounts, ban one account and they quickly make another. Their only "claim to fame" is the ability to insult and make idiotic posts.

Such are the few from WWP (Why We Protest) forum. I think they have anger issues.

My own opinion is the site quality has dramatically decreased since Onslaught. I personally feel the trolls helped contributed to this. I really want this plan to follow through, but the community doesn't seem as focused. Even if they have multiple accounts, I don't see why we aren't more proactive in troll management. There are numerous ideas on how to help the situation better, yet I don't see them implemented.


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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
cK_6eez on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:40 am
Gadamlu wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:
Poppins88 wrote:
Even though Tele is a friend of mine I'm REALLY disappointed he chooses to white wash Laura Knight-Jadczyk as a "researcher" which is purely and truly ridiculous even in the broadest of definition. Quote her website:



The name “Cassiopaea” was given by a consciously “channeled source” which Laura accessed in 1994 after two years of experimental work. The source identified itself by saying “we are you in the future.” Modern physics does not provide us with practical means for this type of communication, and theories on this subject are not well developed; they are, in fact, inconclusive and controversial.

When interpreting “we are you in the future in an oversimplified way, we are faced with causal paradoxes. On the other hand, from the theoretical papers published in physics journals we can learn that, with a proper and careful interpretation, and taking into account quantum uncertainties, communication into the past cannot be dismissed as impossible. Improbable perhaps is the right word, but there are many things that are improbable and yet happen.

The more improbable is a given phenomenon, the more information is carried by its occurrence, the more we can learn by its study.
That is why we did not dismiss the “we are you in the future” as impossible and therefore ignorable. Instead we decided to continue the “communications” as a form of a controlled experiment in “superluminal thought transfer” — even if it was clear that the term should be considered as a tentative indication of only one out several possible interpretations.


My thoughts?

DO NOT WANT


Wow! You should Lurk Moar! Do you really completely dismiss anything outside the realm of what you can see or experience? Why do you believe in atoms? Are there really no black holes? If the dinosaurs COULDN'T have existed (since the world was only created by god, at most, 2 or 3 thousand years ago), then how come we have oil?

Report back with your answers tomorrow. It WILL be graded.


that would be a win, where it ageinst such a christian shuch as that

im my own opinion, i beleive he should stay, and thus i voted so, i have yet to see anything such as what have been stated by the trolls...do post links to mr tele actualy doing this IN THIS FORUM
as for the pastebin...do you have any idea how @#!*% easy it is to edit the copypasta BEFORE you put it to pasebin....? has no one thought of this?

VVVV my thoughts on the last few days of this site


and lastly...this is all about him "recruting" for his suposed religios beleifes, and you F*cking trolls are bashing him to a fine paste...yet in the past we have had christians come here and all theyve done is try to reqruit us to their religion, yet all we did then was just ask them nicely not to and send to the /b/in....anyone else see a problem with that?





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Jig on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:41 am
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Jig, I think you just got insulted by an idiot.

I seem to be quoting one :}


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Slevin on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:42 am
placebo wrote:
Slevin wrote:
Exactly my thoughts. They're permitted even though they are VERY counter-productive. I think it has something to do with the ranking process. Post shit-loads of rubbish and one liners on every page you find and you get a higher ranking. Those of us who are serious and making real progress don't feel the need to spam every page with nonsense as it simply doesn't contribute. As a result, a lot of the decent activists are labelled 'Recruits'. And a lot of useless trolls here just for a giggle or a fight get 'Anon Organiser' status...

Hmm.. I never thought of it like that. I really hope that is not the reason as to why they are allowed.

calico cat wrote:
They can't take this site down, but they can be an annoying aspect of posting here.

They have multiple accounts, ban one account and they quickly make another. Their only "claim to fame" is the ability to insult and make idiotic posts.

Such are the few from WWP (Why We Protest) forum. I think they have anger issues.

My own opinion is the site quality has dramatically decreased since Onslaught. I personally feel the trolls helped contributed to this. I really want this plan to follow through, but the community doesn't seem as focused. Even if they have multiple accounts, I don't see why we aren't more proactive in troll management. There are numerous ideas on how to help the situation better, yet I don't see them implemented.


I get the impression that even admin are losing faith in this whole sham.


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Post by ravenpaige on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:11 pm

Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Schism on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:44 am
placebo wrote:
Slevin wrote:
Exactly my thoughts. They're permitted even though they are VERY counter-productive. I think it has something to do with the ranking process. Post shit-loads of rubbish and one liners on every page you find and you get a higher ranking. Those of us who are serious and making real progress don't feel the need to spam every page with nonsense as it simply doesn't contribute. As a result, a lot of the decent activists are labelled 'Recruits'. And a lot of useless trolls here just for a giggle or a fight get 'Anon Organiser' status...

Hmm.. I never thought of it like that. I really hope that is not the reason as to why they are allowed.

calico cat wrote:
They can't take this site down, but they can be an annoying aspect of posting here.

They have multiple accounts, ban one account and they quickly make another. Their only "claim to fame" is the ability to insult and make idiotic posts.

Such are the few from WWP (Why We Protest) forum. I think they have anger issues.

My own opinion is the site quality has dramatically decreased since Onslaught. I personally feel the trolls helped contributed to this. I really want this plan to follow through, but the community doesn't seem as focused. Even if they have multiple accounts, I don't see why we aren't more proactive in troll management. There are numerous ideas on how to help the situation better, yet I don't see them implemented.


I agree and it has been said elsewhere, maybe Onslaught alerted them or maybe the success of onslaught showed what we could be capable of once we unite, which is the reason they disrupt so many posts.

The worst aspect of this is the effect it has on new members.


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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
0van on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:47 am
hi there fellow anons.

This is my first post, as I'm mostly a lurker, and I'm not keen on posting just for the sake of posting, but after watching all of this shit unfold, I guess I had to step in.
Here's my 2cents:

This is an Anonymous-aligned forums. I think that in a site like this, the only difference between mods and users should be an "administrative / legal" function.(mainly move threads to their respective section, and ban/remove illegal things)
(obviously it's not the same for admins as they have to pay the host, make sure everything works, etc)

All the other functions should be self-regulated by the community, as this is the real anonymous spirit. (perhaps with a rating system?, periodic community reviews?) anyways:


This forum is made FOR IDEAS, AND REAL CHANGE, NOT FOR RAISING ONE'S E-PENIS / CYBERFAME / POSTCOUNT.

So if it has been proved that this Telemachos guy is shady, why the hell can't he leave his position for a more "professional"/"clean"/"whatever" guy take his place?

THIS IS NOT FOR RAISING EGO, so just change him for another guy. What matters is that he does his job, who cares what internet person does it.





tl;dr: he's shady, change him. This is anonymous, what matters is getting the job done, not raising one's ego else it's just another circlejerk / bullshit power structure / not-so-anonymous thing.


It is annoying enough that politicians don't leave their positions even when they are under charges, WHY THE HELL DO WE HAVE TO LET PEOPLE DO THE SAME HERE

Let's just deal with this and move on to a more productive matters.

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
renegadegatorade on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:48 am
Schism wrote:
placebo wrote:
Slevin wrote:
Exactly my thoughts. They're permitted even though they are VERY counter-productive. I think it has something to do with the ranking process. Post shit-loads of rubbish and one liners on every page you find and you get a higher ranking. Those of us who are serious and making real progress don't feel the need to spam every page with nonsense as it simply doesn't contribute. As a result, a lot of the decent activists are labelled 'Recruits'. And a lot of useless trolls here just for a giggle or a fight get 'Anon Organiser' status...

Hmm.. I never thought of it like that. I really hope that is not the reason as to why they are allowed.

calico cat wrote:
They can't take this site down, but they can be an annoying aspect of posting here.

They have multiple accounts, ban one account and they quickly make another. Their only "claim to fame" is the ability to insult and make idiotic posts.

Such are the few from WWP (Why We Protest) forum. I think they have anger issues.

My own opinion is the site quality has dramatically decreased since Onslaught. I personally feel the trolls helped contributed to this. I really want this plan to follow through, but the community doesn't seem as focused. Even if they have multiple accounts, I don't see why we aren't more proactive in troll management. There are numerous ideas on how to help the situation better, yet I don't see them implemented.


I agree and it has been said elsewhere, maybe Onslaught alerted them or maybe the success of onslaught showed what we could be capable of once we unite, which is the reason they disrupt so many posts.

The worst aspect of this is the effect it has on new members.


yes thats it. We're all so intimidated by your ability to ONLY deface private property. Ring me when you actually do something other than wear misfits shirts while spraypainting anarchy symbols under bridges.

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Schism on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:51 am
0van wrote:
hi there fellow anons.

This is my first post, as I'm mostly a lurker, and I'm not keen on posting just for the sake of posting, but after watching all of this shit unfold, I guess I had to step in.
Here's my 2cents:

This is an Anonymous-aligned forums. I think that in a site like this, the only difference between mods and users should be an "administrative / legal" function.(mainly move threads to their respective section, and ban/remove illegal things)
(obviously it's not the same for admins as they have to pay the host, make sure everything works, etc)

All the other functions should be self-regulated by the community, as this is the real anonymous spirit. (perhaps with a rating system?, periodic community reviews?) anyways:


This forum is made FOR IDEAS, AND REAL CHANGE, NOT FOR RAISING ONE'S E-PENIS / CYBERFAME / POSTCOUNT.

So if it has been proved that this Telemachos guy is shady, why the hell can't he leave his position for a more "professional"/"clean"/"whatever" guy take his place?

THIS IS NOT FOR RAISING EGO, so just change him for another guy. What matters is that he does his job, who cares what internet person does it.





tl;dr: he's shady, change him. This is anonymous, what matters is getting the job done, not raising one's ego else it's just another circlejerk / bullshit power structure / not-so-anonymous thing.


It is annoying enough that politicians don't leave their positions even when they are under charges, WHY THE HELL DO WE HAVE TO LET PEOPLE DO THE SAME HERE

Let's just deal with this and move on to a more productive matters.


Wow thanks for this, it makes sense.

I am glad you decided to stop lurking and post, we needed some sensible words on this thread.

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Schism on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:53 am
renegadegatorade wrote:
Schism wrote:
placebo wrote:
Slevin wrote:
Exactly my thoughts. They're permitted even though they are VERY counter-productive. I think it has something to do with the ranking process. Post shit-loads of rubbish and one liners on every page you find and you get a higher ranking. Those of us who are serious and making real progress don't feel the need to spam every page with nonsense as it simply doesn't contribute. As a result, a lot of the decent activists are labelled 'Recruits'. And a lot of useless trolls here just for a giggle or a fight get 'Anon Organiser' status...

Hmm.. I never thought of it like that. I really hope that is not the reason as to why they are allowed.

calico cat wrote:
They can't take this site down, but they can be an annoying aspect of posting here.

They have multiple accounts, ban one account and they quickly make another. Their only "claim to fame" is the ability to insult and make idiotic posts.

Such are the few from WWP (Why We Protest) forum. I think they have anger issues.

My own opinion is the site quality has dramatically decreased since Onslaught. I personally feel the trolls helped contributed to this. I really want this plan to follow through, but the community doesn't seem as focused. Even if they have multiple accounts, I don't see why we aren't more proactive in troll management. There are numerous ideas on how to help the situation better, yet I don't see them implemented.


I agree and it has been said elsewhere, maybe Onslaught alerted them or maybe the success of onslaught showed what we could be capable of once we unite, which is the reason they disrupt so many posts.

The worst aspect of this is the effect it has on new members.


yes thats it. We're all so intimidated by your ability to ONLY deface private property. Ring me when you actually do something other than wear misfits shirts while spraypainting anarchy symbols under bridges.


Okay whats your phone number?

So please enlighten us to what you have done recently?


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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
largo farburn on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:54 am
ravenpaige wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
You sound like a current r3x lover to me.


You really ARE grasping at straws, aren't you?


And how come NO ONE has answered what happens to Schrodinger's Cat?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_Cat


It dies, duh. Furry little bastard never had a chance.

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
cK_6eez on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:55 am
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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
largo farburn on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:59 am
Sixtwelve wrote:
largo farburn wrote:
Drill Sgt XFactoR wrote:
largo farburn wrote:
God damn!!! 71% think you should step down? That's a lot man....


This is all do to sixtwelve and her cult master style brain washing tactics. All so she can create her own cult using the ideas of vibecraft and chaos magick. in a sense she is the actual mastermind behind all of these shenanigans and tomfoolery.


I'm twelve and what is this^

I'm Sixtwelve and what is this^


Apparently your cult master style brainwashing techniques. Also your shenanigans and tomfoolery. The magic is strong in you.

Do you believe in magic? In a young girls heart how the music can free her whenever it starts.
And its magic if the music is groovy, makes you feel good like an old time movie.
i'll tell you bout the magic it'll free you soul. But it's like trying to tell a stranger about rock and roll.




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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Durandarte on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:59 am
largo farburn wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
You sound like a current r3x lover to me.


You really ARE grasping at straws, aren't you?


And how come NO ONE has answered what happens to Schrodinger's Cat?
[url=en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_Cat]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_Cat[/url]


It dies, duh. Furry little bastard never had a chance.


The Schrodinger cat paradox basically proves uncertainty until observability in quantum mechanics, it has been answered, the cat lives or dies 50/50


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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
ravenpaige on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:01 am
largo farburn wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
You sound like a current r3x lover to me.


You really ARE grasping at straws, aren't you?


And how come NO ONE has answered what happens to Schrodinger's Cat?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_Cat


It dies, duh. Furry little bastard never had a chance.

Not in THIS world.


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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
placebo on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:05 am
Slevin wrote:
I get the impression that even admin are losing faith in this whole sham.

That's a little disheartening. I really hope we can turn this around...

Schism wrote:
I agree and it has been said elsewhere, maybe Onslaught alerted them or maybe the success of onslaught showed what we could be capable of once we unite, which is the reason they disrupt so many posts.

The worst aspect of this is the effect it has on new members.


I think you are right. We are a threat and Onslaught proved it. I hope we can get back to that point, but it is going to take lots of work.

That is what I'm scared of. If I came across the plan in the state it is now, I'm not sure if I would join.

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Sorry, but I can't seem to make out what you are saying...


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renegadegatorade on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:09 am
Schism wrote:
renegadegatorade wrote:
Schism wrote:
placebo wrote:
Slevin wrote:
Exactly my thoughts. They're permitted even though they are VERY counter-productive. I think it has something to do with the ranking process. Post shit-loads of rubbish and one liners on every page you find and you get a higher ranking. Those of us who are serious and making real progress don't feel the need to spam every page with nonsense as it simply doesn't contribute. As a result, a lot of the decent activists are labelled 'Recruits'. And a lot of useless trolls here just for a giggle or a fight get 'Anon Organiser' status...

Hmm.. I never thought of it like that. I really hope that is not the reason as to why they are allowed.

calico cat wrote:
They can't take this site down, but they can be an annoying aspect of posting here.

They have multiple accounts, ban one account and they quickly make another. Their only "claim to fame" is the ability to insult and make idiotic posts.

Such are the few from WWP (Why We Protest) forum. I think they have anger issues.

My own opinion is the site quality has dramatically decreased since Onslaught. I personally feel the trolls helped contributed to this. I really want this plan to follow through, but the community doesn't seem as focused. Even if they have multiple accounts, I don't see why we aren't more proactive in troll management. There are numerous ideas on how to help the situation better, yet I don't see them implemented.


I agree and it has been said elsewhere, maybe Onslaught alerted them or maybe the success of onslaught showed what we could be capable of once we unite, which is the reason they disrupt so many posts.

The worst aspect of this is the effect it has on new members.


yes thats it. We're all so intimidated by your ability to ONLY deface private property. Ring me when you actually do something other than wear misfits shirts while spraypainting anarchy symbols under bridges.


Okay whats your phone number?

So please enlighten us to what you have done recently?


I've worked with 6 of these organizations... And you know what they do? Get actual results. For the sake of remaining anonymous I wont say which.

And if youre hung up on the details, forget what I've done personally, and just pay attention to what everyone ELSE is doing, check their records for results. They ACTUALLY get results you know. and then come back here and talk with children about how youre going to change the world while actually doing FUCKING NOTHING AT ALL.

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Caveman on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:10 am
James Bond wrote:
rubberbubber wrote:
A crucial point was made in IRC yesterday that you have no addressed.

You were asked WHY you were trying so hard to retain power, and you never answered this.



This still hasn't been answered.


I haven't seen an answer either.


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largo farburn on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:12 am
ravenpaige wrote:
largo farburn wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
You sound like a current r3x lover to me.


You really ARE grasping at straws, aren't you?


And how come NO ONE has answered what happens to Schrodinger's Cat?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_Cat


It dies, duh. Furry little bastard never had a chance.

Not in THIS world.


What? Explain yourself.

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Sixtwelve on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:15 am
Schism wrote:

Wow thanks for this, it makes sense.

I am glad you decided to stop lurking and post, we needed some sensible words on this thread.

+1


That's what I've been saying for two days. Please smack yourself upside the head, I can't reach you from here.

Do you believe in magick? In a young girls heart how the music can free her whenever it starts.
And its magick if the music is groovy, makes you feel good like an old time movie.
i'll tell you bout the magick it'll free you soul. But it's like trying to tell a stranger about rock and roll.

fixed that for you


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Post by ravenpaige on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:12 pm

Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
calico cat on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:16 am
Caveman wrote:
James Bond wrote:
rubberbubber wrote:
A crucial point was made in IRC yesterday that you have no addressed.

You were asked WHY you were trying so hard to retain power, and you never answered this.



This still hasn't been answered.


I haven't seen an answer either.


I didn't know there was a question. (shrug)

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
renegadegatorade on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:17 am
Caveman wrote:
James Bond wrote:
rubberbubber wrote:
A crucial point was made in IRC yesterday that you have no addressed.

You were asked WHY you were trying so hard to retain power, and you never answered this.



This still hasn't been answered.


I haven't seen an answer either.


well its clear anyone with half a brain knows the answer, but we just want him to admit it.

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Anticxz on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:24 am
http://pastebin.com/y4HHPaiL

Might be of some use.

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Permafrost on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:27 am
Anticxz wrote:
http://pastebin.com/y4HHPaiL

Might be of some use.


Old news, bro. I saw these hours ago.


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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:38 am
Caveman wrote:
James Bond wrote:
rubberbubber wrote:
A crucial point was made in IRC yesterday that you have no addressed.

You were asked WHY you were trying so hard to retain power, and you never answered this.



This still hasn't been answered.


I haven't seen an answer either.


I am not particularly attached to being a Moderator, or an Admin for that matter. However, if you know anything about me by now, it's that I don't back down from a fight. As I said in the OP, I'm not going to allow myself to be bullied into submission, no matter what the circumstances.

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largo farburn on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:40 am
Telemachos wrote:
Caveman wrote:
James Bond wrote:
rubberbubber wrote:
A crucial point was made in IRC yesterday that you have no addressed.

You were asked WHY you were trying so hard to retain power, and you never answered this.



This still hasn't been answered.


I haven't seen an answer either.


I am not particularly attached to being a Moderator, or an Admin for that matter. However, if you know anything about me by now, it's that I don't back down from a fight. As I said in the OP, I'm not going to allow myself to be bullied into submission, no matter what the circumstances.


Even if 70% of the community thinks you should step down?

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Permafrost on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:41 am
Telemachos wrote:


I am not particularly attached to being a Moderator, or an Admin for that matter. However, if you know anything about me by now, it's that I don't back down from a fight. As I said in the OP, I'm not going to allow myself to be bullied into submission, no matter what the circumstances.


Just FTR, I don't believe the mob rule voting policy should be used to remove you, even though I want you to go away.


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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Sixtwelve on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:42 am
largo farburn wrote:
Telemachos wrote:
Caveman wrote:
James Bond wrote:
rubberbubber wrote:
A crucial point was made in IRC yesterday that you have no addressed.

You were asked WHY you were trying so hard to retain power, and you never answered this.



This still hasn't been answered.


I haven't seen an answer either.


I am not particularly attached to being a Moderator, or an Admin for that matter. However, if you know anything about me by now, it's that I don't back down from a fight. As I said in the OP, I'm not going to allow myself to be bullied into submission, no matter what the circumstances.


Even if 70% of the community thinks you should step down?

inb4 cointelpro sockpuppets

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Jig on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:42 am
Telemachos wrote:

I am not particularly attached to being a Moderator, or an Admin for that matter. However, if you know anything about me by now, it's that I don't back down from a fight. As I said in the OP, I'm not going to allow myself to be bullied into submission, no matter what the circumstances.

Not even for the greater good?





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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:43 am
Sixtwelve wrote:
largo farburn wrote:
Telemachos wrote:
Caveman wrote:
James Bond wrote:
rubberbubber wrote:
A crucial point was made in IRC yesterday that you have no addressed.

You were asked WHY you were trying so hard to retain power, and you never answered this.



This still hasn't been answered.


I haven't seen an answer either.


I am not particularly attached to being a Moderator, or an Admin for that matter. However, if you know anything about me by now, it's that I don't back down from a fight. As I said in the OP, I'm not going to allow myself to be bullied into submission, no matter what the circumstances.


Even if 70% of the community thinks you should step down?

inb4 cointelpro sockpuppets



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Slevin on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:45 am
Why have a poll if it's only gonna be ignored?


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largo farburn on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:47 am
Also this is causing a lot of unessisary drama. If nothing else you should step down to avoid that. Then after all this blows over, if you still want to mod run in one of the elections.

My logic is logical.

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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Permafrost on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:47 am
Slevin wrote:
Why have a poll if it's only gonna be ignored?


He expected different responses from his sycophants.


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Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
largo farburn on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:49 am
Slevin wrote:
Why have a poll if it's only gonna be ignored?


And why have two review threads for one mod?
if we should know one thing about you is that you don't back down from a fight, why did you resign in the first place?
this smells fishy to me... and not the good kind

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calico cat on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:51 am
If a vote/poll is null and void for one, it is then null and void for everyone. The action sets a precedent.
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Post by ravenpaige on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:12 pm

Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Slevin on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:52 am
Kinda reminds me of when George Bush was elected. It was a miss-count time after time until he actually got in the lead for once, THEN they decided the count was correct.


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iZaros on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:57 am
Telemachos wrote:
Caveman wrote:
James Bond wrote:
rubberbubber wrote:
A crucial point was made in IRC yesterday that you have no addressed.

You were asked WHY you were trying so hard to retain power, and you never answered this.



This still hasn't been answered.


I haven't seen an answer either.


I am not particularly attached to being a Moderator, or an Admin for that matter. However, if you know anything about me by now, it's that I don't back down from a fight. As I said in the OP, I'm not going to allow myself to be bullied into submission, no matter what the circumstances.


Just my 2 cents here but sometimes it's better to give in. Just for the sake of the community, you know that this is a big deal and people won't stop untill they have an answer they won't stop. I have no doubd that you can take being bullied but you don't need to prove yourself to anyone you know.


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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:03 am
largo farburn wrote:
Slevin wrote:
Why have a poll if it's only gonna be ignored?


And why have two review threads for one mod?
if we should know one thing about you is that you don't back down from a fight, why did you resign in the first place?
this smells fishy to me... and not the good kind


Because, I'd like to stick around long enough to ensure that certain things happen, such as the Research Forums, and an elevation of the quality of WITP. Sure, I'm willing to resign and let this blow over, and I'd be willing to run for another Mod election.

I think more than anything though, with this Mod Review I'm testing the community's ethical and rational qualities. That I'm allowing my name to be tarnished in the process, well, I am not worried about how others think of me, as long as it provides the opportunity to everyone to really think about what you want for WITP. A neutral medium of exchange, or mob rule?

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Sixtwelve on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:05 am
Telemachos wrote:

Because, I'd like to stick around long enough to ensure that certain things happen, such as the Research Forums, and an elevation of the quality of WITP. Sure, I'm willing to resign and let this blow over, and I'd be willing to run for another Mod election.

So do it, and if anyone gives a crap about your ideas they'll vote you back in. Afraid of the answer?


I think more than anything though, with this Mod Review I'm testing the community's ethical and rational qualities. That I'm allowing my name to be tarnished in the process, well, I am not worried about how others think of me, as long as it provides the opportunity to everyone to really think about what you want for WITP. A neutral medium of exchange, or mob rule?

Or magick crystals.

I gotta say, r3xypoo, I've been lurking on that Cassiopaea forum for a while, and...it's pretty fucktarded. Way to find something more moonbat than the Plan, I'm legitimately impressed.

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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:07 am
Why not just do what the community desires and push the reset button ? It's kind of a slap in the face to the community to hold a vote on your status as a mod and not keep your word.

If I were the mods, I would have suspended your account pending a community vote, but I'm not a mod anymore

In my opinion, I feel that if any moderator/admin is gaining disapproval from the community then it should be the communities call as to whether they stay or go.

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Permafrost on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:07 am
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Because, I'd like to stick around long enough to ensure that certain things happen, such as the Research Forums, and an elevation of the quality of WITP. Sure, I'm willing to resign and let this blow over, and I'd be willing to run for another Mod election.

I think more than anything though, with this Mod Review I'm testing the community's ethical and rational qualities. That I'm allowing my name to be tarnished in the process, well, I am not worried about how others think of me, as long as it provides the opportunity to everyone to really think about what you want for WITP. A neutral medium of exchange, or mob rule?


You set up the poll. Why do that if you don't care how others think of you?


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Sixtwelve on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:08 am
Permafrost wrote:
You set up the poll. Why do that if you don't care how others think of you?

Permafrost wrote:
He expected different responses from his sycophants.



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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:10 am
Permafrost wrote:
Harry Potter wrote:


Because, I'd like to stick around long enough to ensure that certain things happen, such as the Research Forums, and an elevation of the quality of WITP. Sure, I'm willing to resign and let this blow over, and I'd be willing to run for another Mod election.

I think more than anything though, with this Mod Review I'm testing the community's ethical and rational qualities. That I'm allowing my name to be tarnished in the process, well, I am not worried about how others think of me, as long as it provides the opportunity to everyone to really think about what you want for WITP. A neutral medium of exchange, or mob rule?


You set up the poll. Why do that if you don't care how others think of you?


All part of the game, my friend.

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Anticxz on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:11 am
Telemachos wrote:

I think more than anything though, with this Mod Review I'm testing the community's ethical and rational qualities. That I'm allowing my name to be tarnished in the process, well, I am not worried about how others think of me, as long as it provides the opportunity to everyone to really think about what you want for WITP. A neutral medium of exchange, or mob rule?


You've got to be kidding right? Got more delusions of grandeur? You got called out and you're doing an obvious job of deflecting and attempting to rationalize. Most everyone can see it I guarantee, because that is what we see day after day from people in power.


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Permafrost on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:12 am
Sixtwelve wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
You set up the poll. Why do that if you don't care how others think of you?

Permafrost wrote:
He expected different responses from his sycophants.




Thanks, me.


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Permafrost on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:13 am
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All part of the game, my friend.


Lol. Nice deflect.


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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:16 am
Telemachos wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
Harry Potter wrote:


Because, I'd like to stick around long enough to ensure that certain things happen, such as the Research Forums, and an elevation of the quality of WITP. Sure, I'm willing to resign and let this blow over, and I'd be willing to run for another Mod election.

I think more than anything though, with this Mod Review I'm testing the community's ethical and rational qualities. That I'm allowing my name to be tarnished in the process, well, I am not worried about how others think of me, as long as it provides the opportunity to everyone to really think about what you want for WITP. A neutral medium of exchange, or mob rule?


You set up the poll. Why do that if you don't care how others think of you?


All part of the game, my friend.



The game ? Anonymous is a game to you ? Or did you mean that in a sense that this is psy-op launched by yourself, and the vote has no merit whatsoever. That statement alone should merit a removal of mod priv's, but like I said before, I'm not a mod anymore

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calico cat on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:16 am
Telemachos wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
Harry Potter wrote:


Because, I'd like to stick around long enough to ensure that certain things happen, such as the Research Forums, and an elevation of the quality of WITP. Sure, I'm willing to resign and let this blow over, and I'd be willing to run for another Mod election.

I think more than anything though, with this Mod Review I'm testing the community's ethical and rational qualities. That I'm allowing my name to be tarnished in the process, well, I am not worried about how others think of me, as long as it provides the opportunity to everyone to really think about what you want for WITP. A neutral medium of exchange, or mob rule?


You set up the poll. Why do that if you don't care how others think of you?


All part of the game, my friend.


"All part of the game"? Is that what this forum and members mean to you? To play a game?

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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:18 am
Telemachos wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
Harry Potter wrote:


Because, I'd like to stick around long enough to ensure that certain things happen, such as the Research Forums, and an elevation of the quality of WITP. Sure, I'm willing to resign and let this blow over, and I'd be willing to run for another Mod election.

I think more than anything though, with this Mod Review I'm testing the community's ethical and rational qualities. That I'm allowing my name to be tarnished in the process, well, I am not worried about how others think of me, as long as it provides the opportunity to everyone to really think about what you want for WITP. A neutral medium of exchange, or mob rule?


You set up the poll. Why do that if you don't care how others think of you?


All part of the game, my friend.

wait what?

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Sixtwelve on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:19 am
Telemachos wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
Harry Potter wrote:


Because, I'd like to stick around long enough to ensure that certain things happen, such as the Research Forums, and an elevation of the quality of WITP. Sure, I'm willing to resign and let this blow over, and I'd be willing to run for another Mod election.

I think more than anything though, with this Mod Review I'm testing the community's ethical and rational qualities. That I'm allowing my name to be tarnished in the process, well, I am not worried about how others think of me, as long as it provides the opportunity to everyone to really think about what you want for WITP. A neutral medium of exchange, or mob rule?


You set up the poll. Why do that if you don't care how others think of you?


All part of the game, my friend.

So you admit you're just trolling WITP.
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Post by ravenpaige on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:13 pm

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renegadegatorade on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:19 am
hahahaha oh wow. what a dick.

inb4 he tells you in secret he was just collecting ips.

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Permafrost on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:23 am
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hahahaha oh wow. what a dick.

inb4 he tells you in secret he was just collecting ips.


I'm not even sure if this should count as tinfoil anymore.


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calico cat on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:24 am
James Bond wrote:
Telemachos wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
Harry Potter wrote:


Because, I'd like to stick around long enough to ensure that certain things happen, such as the Research Forums, and an elevation of the quality of WITP. Sure, I'm willing to resign and let this blow over, and I'd be willing to run for another Mod election.

I think more than anything though, with this Mod Review I'm testing the community's ethical and rational qualities. That I'm allowing my name to be tarnished in the process, well, I am not worried about how others think of me, as long as it provides the opportunity to everyone to really think about what you want for WITP. A neutral medium of exchange, or mob rule?


You set up the poll. Why do that if you don't care how others think of you?


All part of the game, my friend.



The game ? Anonymous is a game to you ? Or did you mean that in a sense that this is psy-op launched by yourself, and the vote has no merit whatsoever. That statement alone should merit a removal of mod priv's, but like I said before, I'm not a mod anymore


I'm half expecting for him to say this was a test to see if we can stand up for ourselves and he's glad we passed. April Fool.

This is all sounding strongly as a major mind-fuck.

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largo farburn on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:24 am
Telemachos wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
Harry Potter wrote:


Because, I'd like to stick around long enough to ensure that certain things happen, such as the Research Forums, and an elevation of the quality of WITP. Sure, I'm willing to resign and let this blow over, and I'd be willing to run for another Mod election.

I think more than anything though, with this Mod Review I'm testing the community's ethical and rational qualities. That I'm allowing my name to be tarnished in the process, well, I am not worried about how others think of me, as long as it provides the opportunity to everyone to really think about what you want for WITP. A neutral medium of exchange, or mob rule?


You set up the poll. Why do that if you don't care how others think of you?


All part of the game, my friend.


So this is all just a game to you? That's pretty fucked up dude.

I would like to quote what you told me when I first came here.
"the community doesn't need to prove itself to you, you need to prove yourself to the community."

And right now you're just being an attention whore and an ass hat my friend.
dragging this out and making a big hooplah about it is only hurting the community. You're causing division and quite frankly based on your actions I think that's your goal with this thread

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Spider-Man on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:24 am
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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:25 am
calico cat wrote:
Telemachos wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
Harry Potter wrote:


Because, I'd like to stick around long enough to ensure that certain things happen, such as the Research Forums, and an elevation of the quality of WITP. Sure, I'm willing to resign and let this blow over, and I'd be willing to run for another Mod election.

I think more than anything though, with this Mod Review I'm testing the community's ethical and rational qualities. That I'm allowing my name to be tarnished in the process, well, I am not worried about how others think of me, as long as it provides the opportunity to everyone to really think about what you want for WITP. A neutral medium of exchange, or mob rule?


You set up the poll. Why do that if you don't care how others think of you?


All part of the game, my friend.


"All part of the game"? Is that what this forum and members mean to you? To play a game?


Consider for a moment that this situation provides an opportunity for the community to really think about some very important issues, like what ideas we want to include/exclude from The Plan, as well as the procedures and manner in which these ideas are presented and analyzed, and how consensus can be achieved so we can move towards action. Can't you say that you've thought more about these issues because of this current vote?



You hate me like House.

This is why I stated the best troll of all is the one no one understands.

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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:26 am
watch, he'll make a bunch of accounts and get his votes up so he can stay on and be all like hai guise I'm wanted! And then he'll be promoted to Admin.

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Permafrost on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:26 am
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OMG COINTELPRO GUISE!



Shut up, we're turning the community against him.


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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:27 am
Telemachos wrote:
calico cat wrote:
Telemachos wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
Harry Potter wrote:


Because, I'd like to stick around long enough to ensure that certain things happen, such as the Research Forums, and an elevation of the quality of WITP. Sure, I'm willing to resign and let this blow over, and I'd be willing to run for another Mod election.

I think more than anything though, with this Mod Review I'm testing the community's ethical and rational qualities. That I'm allowing my name to be tarnished in the process, well, I am not worried about how others think of me, as long as it provides the opportunity to everyone to really think about what you want for WITP. A neutral medium of exchange, or mob rule?


You set up the poll. Why do that if you don't care how others think of you?


All part of the game, my friend.


"All part of the game"? Is that what this forum and members mean to you? To play a game?


Consider for a moment that this situation provides an opportunity for the community to really think about some very important issues, like what ideas we want to include/exclude from The Plan, as well as the procedures and manner in which these ideas are presented and analyzed, and how consensus can be achieved so we can move towards action. Can't you say that you've thought more about these issues because of this current vote?



You hate me like House.

This is why I stated the best troll of all is the one no one understands.




The only thing the community seems to be wanting to exclude from the plan is you, bro.

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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:27 am
Telemachos wrote:
calico cat wrote:
Telemachos wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
Harry Potter wrote:


Because, I'd like to stick around long enough to ensure that certain things happen, such as the Research Forums, and an elevation of the quality of WITP. Sure, I'm willing to resign and let this blow over, and I'd be willing to run for another Mod election.

I think more than anything though, with this Mod Review I'm testing the community's ethical and rational qualities. That I'm allowing my name to be tarnished in the process, well, I am not worried about how others think of me, as long as it provides the opportunity to everyone to really think about what you want for WITP. A neutral medium of exchange, or mob rule?


You set up the poll. Why do that if you don't care how others think of you?


All part of the game, my friend.


"All part of the game"? Is that what this forum and members mean to you? To play a game?


Consider for a moment that this situation provides an opportunity for the community to really think about some very important issues, like what ideas we want to include/exclude from The Plan, as well as the procedures and manner in which these ideas are presented and analyzed, and how consensus can be achieved so we can move towards action. Can't you say that you've thought more about these issues because of this current vote?



You hate me like House.

This is why I stated the best troll of all is the one no one understands.

from one troll to another well played op but mark my words if this is one big joke im gonna take you down bc i was cyber raped no too long ago for defending you


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Permafrost on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:29 am
Making shit up on the fly wrote:

Consider for a moment that this situation provides an opportunity for the community to really think about some very important issues, like what ideas we want to include/exclude from The Plan, as well as the procedures and manner in which these ideas are presented and analyzed, and how consensus can be achieved so we can move towards action. Can't you say that you've thought more about these issues because of this current vote?



You hate me like House.

This is why I stated the best troll of all is the one no one understands.


Lol, arrogance. So, tell me, did you make sure your dox and your cult shit got leaked so everybody could see? Was it part of "the game"? Because that shit alone should get you banned. Not your egofaggotry after the fact.


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Permafrost on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:30 am
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from one troll to another well played op


Lol, saying you're a troll does not make you one.


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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:33 am
Bridgetonrebel wrote:
Telemachos wrote:
calico cat wrote:
Telemachos wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
Harry Potter wrote:


Because, I'd like to stick around long enough to ensure that certain things happen, such as the Research Forums, and an elevation of the quality of WITP. Sure, I'm willing to resign and let this blow over, and I'd be willing to run for another Mod election.

I think more than anything though, with this Mod Review I'm testing the community's ethical and rational qualities. That I'm allowing my name to be tarnished in the process, well, I am not worried about how others think of me, as long as it provides the opportunity to everyone to really think about what you want for WITP. A neutral medium of exchange, or mob rule?


You set up the poll. Why do that if you don't care how others think of you?


All part of the game, my friend.


"All part of the game"? Is that what this forum and members mean to you? To play a game?


Consider for a moment that this situation provides an opportunity for the community to really think about some very important issues, like what ideas we want to include/exclude from The Plan, as well as the procedures and manner in which these ideas are presented and analyzed, and how consensus can be achieved so we can move towards action. Can't you say that you've thought more about these issues because of this current vote?



You hate me like House.

This is why I stated the best troll of all is the one no one understands.

from one troll to another well played op but mark my words if this is one big joke im gonna take you down bc i was cyber raped no too long ago for defending you


Oh I assure you, the troll is for a very serious purpose, as I stated above.

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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:33 am
Permafag wrote:
Bridgetonrebel wrote:

from one troll to another well played op


Lol, saying you're a troll does not make you one.

i aint even mad
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Post by ravenpaige on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:14 pm

Re: Moderator Review: Telemachos -- #2
Sixtwelve on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:33 am
Telemachos wrote:

Consider for a moment that this situation provides an opportunity for the community to really think about some very important issues, like what ideas we want to include/exclude from The Plan, as well as the procedures and manner in which these ideas are presented and analyzed, and how consensus can be achieved so we can move towards action. Can't you say that you've thought more about these issues because of this current vote?



You hate me like House.

This is why I stated the best troll of all is the one no one understands.


Okay, admins, he's outright admitted he's trolling the site, if I understand your rules correctly that warrants a ban.

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largo farburn on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:34 am
Telemachos wrote:
calico cat wrote:
Telemachos wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
Harry Potter wrote:


Because, I'd like to stick around long enough to ensure that certain things happen, such as the Research Forums, and an elevation of the quality of WITP. Sure, I'm willing to resign and let this blow over, and I'd be willing to run for another Mod election.

I think more than anything though, with this Mod Review I'm testing the community's ethical and rational qualities. That I'm allowing my name to be tarnished in the process, well, I am not worried about how others think of me, as long as it provides the opportunity to everyone to really think about what you want for WITP. A neutral medium of exchange, or mob rule?


You set up the poll. Why do that if you don't care how others think of you?


All part of the game, my friend.


"All part of the game"? Is that what this forum and members mean to you? To play a game?


Consider for a moment that this situation provides an opportunity for the community to really think about some very important issues, like what ideas we want to include/exclude from The Plan, as well as the procedures and manner in which these ideas are presented and analyzed, and how consensus can be achieved so we can move towards action. Can't you say that you've thought more about these issues because of this current vote?



You hate me like House.

This is why I stated the best troll of all is the one no one understands.


Toot toot, all aboard the fail boat! Next stop the /b/ermuda triangle.

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calico cat on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:35 am
Telemachos wrote:
calico cat wrote:
Telemachos wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
Harry Potter wrote:


Because, I'd like to stick around long enough to ensure that certain things happen, such as the Research Forums, and an elevation of the quality of WITP. Sure, I'm willing to resign and let this blow over, and I'd be willing to run for another Mod election.

I think more than anything though, with this Mod Review I'm testing the community's ethical and rational qualities. That I'm allowing my name to be tarnished in the process, well, I am not worried about how others think of me, as long as it provides the opportunity to everyone to really think about what you want for WITP. A neutral medium of exchange, or mob rule?


You set up the poll. Why do that if you don't care how others think of you?


All part of the game, my friend.


"All part of the game"? Is that what this forum and members mean to you? To play a game?


Consider for a moment that this situation provides an opportunity for the community to really think about some very important issues, like what ideas we want to include/exclude from The Plan, as well as the procedures and manner in which these ideas are presented and analyzed, and how consensus can be achieved so we can move towards action. Can't you say that you've thought more about these issues because of this current vote?


You hate me like House.

This is why I stated the best troll of all is the one no one understands.


No, not at all have I thought more about these issues because of this current vote.

Honestly, you scare me big time and you make no logical sense to me. I think the methods you have shown are counter to the members of this forum.

I feel you should resign.


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Dionysus on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:35 am
Permafrost wrote:
Making shit up on the fly wrote:

Consider for a moment that this situation provides an opportunity for the community to really think about some very important issues, like what ideas we want to include/exclude from The Plan, as well as the procedures and manner in which these ideas are presented and analyzed, and how consensus can be achieved so we can move towards action. Can't you say that you've thought more about these issues because of this current vote?



You hate me like House.

This is why I stated the best troll of all is the one no one understands.


Lol, arrogance. So, tell me, did you make sure your dox and your cult shit got leaked so everybody could see? Was it part of "the game"? Because that shit alone should get you banned. Not your egofaggotry after the fact.


How amusing of a troll to be talking about egofaggotry. Your entire groups level of self-importance over this "chivalrous" act is doing nothing but show your obsession with this singular person. Not only do you have to make sure action gets taken, you have to pull an entire community in for the ride.

And kids, you should know by now that if we ban trolls as avaricious as you idiotic lot are, it just feeds you. Bans are super spice.


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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:36 am
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Telemachos wrote:

Consider for a moment that this situation provides an opportunity for the community to really think about some very important issues, like what ideas we want to include/exclude from The Plan, as well as the procedures and manner in which these ideas are presented and analyzed, and how consensus can be achieved so we can move towards action. Can't you say that you've thought more about these issues because of this current vote?



You hate me like House.

This is why I stated the best troll of all is the one no one understands.


Okay, admins, he's outright admitted he's trolling the site, if I understand your rules correctly that warrants a ban.


I would agree.

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i don't quite understand what that creepy blue eyed guy has to do but in my time lurning around i have seen Telemachos is a good mod


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i don't quite understand what that creepy blue eyed guy has to do but in my time lurning around i have seen Telemachos is a good mod


Watch some episodes of House M.D. Then you'll get it.

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Dionysus wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
Making shit up on the fly wrote:

Consider for a moment that this situation provides an opportunity for the community to really think about some very important issues, like what ideas we want to include/exclude from The Plan, as well as the procedures and manner in which these ideas are presented and analyzed, and how consensus can be achieved so we can move towards action. Can't you say that you've thought more about these issues because of this current vote?



You hate me like House.

This is why I stated the best troll of all is the one no one understands.


Lol, arrogance. So, tell me, did you make sure your dox and your cult shit got leaked so everybody could see? Was it part of "the game"? Because that shit alone should get you banned. Not your egofaggotry after the fact.


How amusing of a troll to be talking about egofaggotry. Your entire groups level of self-importance over this "chivalrous" act is doing nothing but show your obsession with this singular person. Not only do you have to make sure action gets taken, you have to pull an entire community in for the ride.

And kids, you should know by now that if we ban trolls as avaricious as you idiotic lot are, it just feeds you. Bans are super spice.

Well, you've all convinced me.....that you're idiots. Why is this not in the basement?


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Sixtwelve on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:41 am
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Well, you've all convinced me.....that you're idiots. Why is this not in the basement?

Because forum rules don't apply to Telemachos.

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Jacob The Colombian on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:42 am
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Jacob The Colombian wrote:
i don't quite understand what that creepy blue eyed guy has to do but in my time lurning around i have seen Telemachos is a good mod


Watch some episodes of House M.D. Then you'll get it.


ill be watching them online lol,it seems no network on colombia airs it


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Hey r3x, watch your mail, I got you a present. I hope you like it.

Spoiler: it's a crystal ball.

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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:44 am
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ravenpaige wrote:

Well, you've all convinced me.....that you're idiots. Why is this not in the basement?

Because forum rules don't apply to Telemachos.


The poll runs for 7 days. In addition, I'm attempting to clarify a very important point; that if the result of my actions is to actually inspire a more intense "storming period" then it may in fact lead to a much stronger norming and performing phase.

Not all trolling is destructive, or unserious, or "for the lulz". My trolling is constructive, even if it is still confusing.

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ravenpaige wrote:

Well, you've all convinced me.....that you're idiots. Why is this not in the basement?

Because forum rules don't apply to Telemachos.





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So not only have you admitted to trolling, but then proclaimed you are " The best " troll.

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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:47 am
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So not only have you admitted to trolling, but then proclaimed you are " The best " troll.


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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:48 am
So you get to be a mod for another 7 days because you say so ?

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Sixtwelve on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:49 am
Telemachos wrote:
Sixtwelve wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:

Well, you've all convinced me.....that you're idiots. Why is this not in the basement?

Because forum rules don't apply to Telemachos.


The poll runs for 7 days. In addition, I'm attempting to clarify a very important point; that if the result of my actions is to actually inspire a more intense "storming period" then it may in fact lead to a much stronger norming and performing phase.

Not all trolling is destructive, or unserious, or "for the lulz". My trolling is constructive, even if it is still confusing.

Your trolling is constructive in your opinion.

This is just like how you refused to send your vibe shit through the same approval process you made everyone else's ideas go through. Because you're so goddamn special.

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largo farburn on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:50 am
Telemachos wrote:
Sixtwelve wrote:
ravenpaige wrote:

Well, you've all convinced me.....that you're idiots. Why is this not in the basement?

Because forum rules don't apply to Telemachos.


The poll runs for 7 days. In addition, I'm attempting to clarify a very important point; that if the result of my actions is to actually inspire a more intense "storming period" then it may in fact lead to a much stronger norming and performing phase.

Not all trolling is destructive, or unserious, or "for the lulz". My trolling is constructive, even if it is still confusing.


What do polls not run in the basement? And your logic makes no sense.
adding to the chaos is only adding to the chaos, not making us perform better, even in the long run.

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Shalinoth on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:50 am
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I would agree.


This anon would agree.


Having found reason / compromise in Telemachos in the past, I know he's capable of it. But I feel now that he's not exercising any of it right now, having been backed into a corner.

Telemate, you forgot the part about trolling where it's for the lulz. I see very few lulz in this mindfuck facesave. Or anything remotely constructive, as per your own quoted ethics on trolling. I see a distracted community deprived of the focus that it was built on. I see members getting tired of the drama while you can end by performing the Service-To-Others you so praise.

If all of that was empty copy-pasta on your part, then well played. You just performed a 2-month trolling. Except, it took substantial effort and loss on your part.

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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:50 am
This also gives him much more time to make more accounts and vote himself up on the poll. I feel that an IP ban is warranted until the poll is closed.

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Sixtwelve on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:52 am
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This also gives him much more time to make more accounts and vote himself up on the poll. I feel that an IP ban is warranted until the poll is closed.

IP ban doesn't do shit. For the record.

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James Bond wrote:


I would agree.


This anon would agree.


Having found reason / compromise in Telemachos in the past, I know he's capable of it. But I feel now that he's not exercising any of it right now, having been backed into a corner.

Telemate, you forgot the part about trolling where it's for the lulz. I see very few lulz in this mindfuck facesave. Or anything remotely constructive, as per your own quoted ethics on trolling. I see a distracted community deprived of the focus that it was built on. I see members getting tired of the drama while you can end by performing the Service-To-Others you so praise.

If all of that was empty copy-pasta on your part, then well played. You just performed a 2-month trolling. Except, it took substantial effort and loss on your part.

No sandwiches for you.


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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:53 am
Shalinoth wrote:
James Bond wrote:


I would agree.


This anon would agree.


Having found reason / compromise in Telemachos in the past, I know he's capable of it. But I feel now that he's not exercising any of it right now, having been backed into a corner.

Telemate, you forgot the part about trolling where it's for the lulz. I see very few lulz in this mindfuck facesave. Or anything remotely constructive, as per your own quoted ethics on trolling. I see a distracted community deprived of the focus that it was built on. I see members getting tired of the drama while you can end by performing the Service-To-Others you so praise.

If all of that was empty copy-pasta on your part, then well played. You just performed a 2-month trolling. Except, it took substantial effort and loss on your part.

No sandwiches for you.

+1 i also sare this sentiment

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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:54 am
+1 if you feel that a ban is warranted given the circumstances.

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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:55 am
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+1 if you feel that a ban is warranted given the circumstances.

+1 if temporarily

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renegadegatorade on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:56 am
word on sesame street is he's already been banned on irc. The mods/admins are starting to come around, lets hope. Which explains why he's desperate and flying off the handle about whatever weird constructive trolling he's alleging he's doing.

its strange to watch a man disintigrate into madness in hyper real time.

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Sixtwelve on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:56 am
+1 because it'd be funny.

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calico cat on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:57 am
Bridgetonrebel wrote:
Shalinoth wrote:
James Bond wrote:


I would agree.


This anon would agree.


Having found reason / compromise in Telemachos in the past, I know he's capable of it. But I feel now that he's not exercising any of it right now, having been backed into a corner.

Telemate, you forgot the part about trolling where it's for the lulz. I see very few lulz in this mindfuck facesave. Or anything remotely constructive, as per your own quoted ethics on trolling. I see a distracted community deprived of the focus that it was built on. I see members getting tired of the drama while you can end by performing the Service-To-Others you so praise.

If all of that was empty copy-pasta on your part, then well played. You just performed a 2-month trolling. Except, it took substantial effort and loss on your part.

No sandwiches for you.

+1 i also sare this sentiment


+1 I vote no confidence with this moderator who admits to it being a game.


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Dionysus on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:57 am
renegadegatorade wrote:
word on sesame street is he's already been banned on irc. The mods/admins are starting to come around, lets hope. Which explains why he's desperate and flying off the handle about whatever weird constructive trolling he's alleging he's doing.

its strange to watch a man disintigrate into madness in hyper real time.


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iZaros on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:58 am
Ok now I'm convinced, Telemachos for someone with years of experience with the internet I am disapoint!
I voted no because I feel that you need to go for:

1) your own safety (being doxed etc stop giving people more reasons to make your life a hell dude)
2) for the community's sake, atm this is causing a massive shitstorm that could be stopped


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Post by ravenpaige on Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:15 pm

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renegadegatorade on Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:59 am
Dionysus wrote:
renegadegatorade wrote:
word on sesame street is he's already been banned on irc. The mods/admins are starting to come around, lets hope. Which explains why he's desperate and flying off the handle about whatever weird constructive trolling he's alleging he's doing.

its strange to watch a man disintigrate into madness in hyper real time.


Oh yeah and you mean we're drinking your koolaid now?

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lolwat

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largo farburn on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:01 am
Side note: does all this have anything to do with all the mods stepping down lately?

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telemachos has left the mod position

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renegadegatorade on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:03 am
largo farburn wrote:
Side note: does all this have anything to do with all the mods stepping down lately?


theyre not stepping down in defense of him, rather they are sick of the mess this site has become because of him.

inb4 his last defender dionysus starts foaming at the mouth again.

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lol

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Bridgetonrebel wrote:
telemachos has left the mod position


Left or got kicked? There's a very important distinction.

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calico cat on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:04 am
Dionysus wrote:
renegadegatorade wrote:
word on sesame street is he's already been banned on irc. The mods/admins are starting to come around, lets hope. Which explains why he's desperate and flying off the handle about whatever weird constructive trolling he's alleging he's doing.

its strange to watch a man disintigrate into madness in hyper real time.


Oh yeah and you mean we're drinking your koolaid now?

YES MASTER TELL ME YOUR BIDDING!


Can you seriously support FFAD after he has admitted his actions were part of a game. Do you seriously support this?

posting conflicts with timing.

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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:04 am
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James Bond wrote:


I would agree.


This anon would agree.


Having found reason / compromise in Telemachos in the past, I know he's capable of it. But I feel now that he's not exercising any of it right now, having been backed into a corner.

Telemate, you forgot the part about trolling where it's for the lulz. I see very few lulz in this mindfuck facesave. Or anything remotely constructive, as per your own quoted ethics on trolling. I see a distracted community deprived of the focus that it was built on. I see members getting tired of the drama while you can end by performing the Service-To-Others you so praise.

If all of that was empty copy-pasta on your part, then well played. You just performed a 2-month trolling. Except, it took substantial effort and loss on your part.

No sandwiches for you.


Thank you. Thank you for talking about our focus. We all know our focus should not be on drama and shitstorms. So what should that focus be on? Besides that, who ever said that trolling has to be for the lulz?

This is the Art of War, ladies and gentlemen.

Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate.


All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.


If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.


Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate.


Is this not an information war? Trolling is deception, and can be of value, given that our opponents have engaged in such deception.

It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.

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largo farburn on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:05 am
renegadegatorade wrote:
largo farburn wrote:
Side note: does all this have anything to do with all the mods stepping down lately?


theyre not stepping down in defense of him, rather they are sick of the mess this site has become because of him.

inb4 his last defender dionysus starts foaming at the mouth again.


That's what I meant, mods leaving cause the drama and what have you.

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renegadegatorade on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:05 am
he has been kicked. as he said before he would never give up POWAH and the poll was a joke. A teachable moment, as he puts it, for you lesser plebes.

seriously. what an egotistical fucking twit.

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Sixtwelve on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:06 am
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Bridgetonrebel wrote:
telemachos has left the mod position


Left or got kicked? There's a very important distinction.


Or he just changed what usergroup is displayed. I'd prefer to see an admin confirm it.

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Last defender, that's amusing.

I'm pushing for actual activism on this forum. The stench of troll appears to be driving anyone away from doing anything besides baaawwww.


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iZaros on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:09 am
Sixtwelve wrote:
largo farburn wrote:
Bridgetonrebel wrote:
telemachos has left the mod position


Left or got kicked? There's a very important distinction.


Or he just changed what usergroup is displayed. I'd prefer to see an admin confirm it.


He is no longer in the moderator usergroup as seen here.


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renegadegatorade on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:10 am
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Last defender, that's amusing.

I'm pushing for actual activism on this forum. The stench of troll appears to be driving anyone away from doing anything besides baaawwww.


Oh wait, you're part of 6 super organizations to save the world! YAY!


you could be too. if only you could be more like me and less like you.
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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:11 am
idk fuck this thread im out! i hope that it doesnt turn out that 612 and her buttbudies are correct other wise it will be very bad for you Patrick

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cK_6eez on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:11 am
Telemachos wrote:
James Bond wrote:
So not only have you admitted to trolling, but then proclaimed you are " The best " troll.


If it makes you hate me more, then yes.


Listen to WTF you are saying your mocking the plan! and its members, your trying to save face here,
you think your so damn smart! just remember if you were! than you wouldn't be in the position you are in right now.
unless you set that all up but why would you, I cant believe this, what i have witnessed here today

and if you think you pulled a lot of people togeather by doing this, your wrong.
I think you hurt a lot of people here today fighter from a distance or tele or Joseph or whatever name you wanna go by.




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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:11 am
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Side note: does all this have anything to do with all the mods stepping down lately?


I can't say that is the reason other mods have stepped down, but I can definitely tell you it played a major role in my resignation.

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calico cat on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:12 am
I don't see anything funny or amusing about what has transpired here. Its sad, very sad.

I don't feel anyone won anything and there is nothing to rejoice about either. It just wasn't something I enjoyed seeing happen.


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Dionysus on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:12 am
renegadegatorade wrote:
Dionysus wrote:

Last defender, that's amusing.

I'm pushing for actual activism on this forum. The stench of troll appears to be driving anyone away from doing anything besides baaawwww.


Oh wait, you're part of 6 super organizations to save the world! YAY!


you could be too. if only you could be more like me and less like you.


There you go with that self-importance bit again. Assuming I'm some youngster who didn't get his gameboy on christmas.

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cK_6eez on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:13 am
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Sixtwelve on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:13 am
iZaros wrote:
Sixtwelve wrote:
largo farburn wrote:
Bridgetonrebel wrote:
telemachos has left the mod position


Left or got kicked? There's a very important distinction.


Or he just changed what usergroup is displayed. I'd prefer to see an admin confirm it.


He is no longer in the moderator usergroup as seen here.

Thank you.

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CybAno on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:15 am
Didn't you write something about the cycle of mods in your essays?

Where did this come from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=mXmz605GAnc&hl=en

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Shalinoth on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:15 am
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Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate.

...


If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him.


...




But Tele, all this classical warfare pasta aside, the enemy in all this, the victim of your mindfuckery, has been this community.

This anon cannot see how you are strengthening us by being worse than any enemy we've yet encountered thus far [you may now commence fapfapping at this unintended praise].

Your actions are not that of a whetstone to sharpen our resolve, they are embittering old and new to the plan. If you hold any value for the ethics you helped collate in your 101 document, this anon sincerely asks you to take some time out and let the community rediscover its course, in your constructive absence.

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renegadegatorade on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:16 am
Dionysus wrote:
renegadegatorade wrote:
Dionysus wrote:

Last defender, that's amusing.

I'm pushing for actual activism on this forum. The stench of troll appears to be driving anyone away from doing anything besides baaawwww.


Oh wait, you're part of 6 super organizations to save the world! YAY!


you could be too. if only you could be more like me and less like you.



telemachos last defender is hallucinating now, eh? well shit i didnt see that coming.

There you go with that self-importance bit again. Assuming I'm some youngster who didn't get his gameboy on christmas.

How quaint.



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cK_6eez on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:16 am
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I don't see anything funny or amusing about what has transpired here. Its sad, very sad.

I don't feel anyone won anything and there is nothing to rejoice about either. It just wasn't something I enjoyed seeing happen.



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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:18 am
hmm ive just seen this shit hes using us people type in http look for yourself
://i.imgur.com/UxYna.jpg
://i.imgur.com/FeH2x.jpg

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firstmonkey on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:20 am
This is the stupidest shit.....
I wish some of you would put the effort you've put into this clusterfuck into Witp in a productive manner.....as far as the trollls go....if you think the 30-40 of you creating multiple accounts are going to be able to derail Witp you're nucking futts as this magic horseshit....you're fighting an uphill battle for every 10 members you discourge another 1000 join to take their place daily...Witp is here to stay....I welcome my witp brothers and sisters that joined with positive intentions.....

As far as r3x (tele)....I have pulled his mod privs until this shit is sorted out whether or not he mods on Witp again remains to be seen


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Kosmicdebris on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:26 am
You know what that means

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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:27 am
Kosmicdebris wrote:
You know what that means

/b/uttfuck this thread



i second that

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/b/ please.

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Im done with this shit moved to/ b/

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cK_6eez on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:31 am
Telemachos wrote:
Shalinoth wrote:
James Bond wrote:


I would agree.


This anon would agree.


Having found reason / compromise in Telemachos in the past, I know he's capable of it. But I feel now that he's not exercising any of it right now, having been backed into a corner.

Telemate, you forgot the part about trolling where it's for the lulz. I see very few lulz in this mindfuck facesave. Or anything remotely constructive, as per your own quoted ethics on trolling. I see a distracted community deprived of the focus that it was built on. I see members getting tired of the drama while you can end by performing the Service-To-Others you so praise.

If all of that was empty copy-pasta on your part, then well played. You just performed a 2-month trolling. Except, it took substantial effort and loss on your part.

No sandwiches for you.


Thank you. Thank you for talking about our focus. We all know our focus should not be on drama and shitstorms. So what should that focus be on? Besides that, who ever said that trolling has to be for the lulz?

This is the Art of War, ladies and gentlemen.

Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate.


All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.


If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.


Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate.


Is this not an information war? Trolling is deception, and can be of value, given that our opponents have engaged in such deception.

It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.

This is not war! wtf r u thinking? has he completely lost it ITS a conversation


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Kosmicdebris on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:33 am
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Seems like something went wrong when Firstmonkey moved it.
Anyways moved to the su/b/terranean room.


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largo farburn on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:35 am
largo farburn wrote:
Telemachos wrote:
calico cat wrote:
Telemachos wrote:
Permafrost wrote:
Harry Potter wrote:


Because, I'd like to stick around long enough to ensure that certain things happen, such as the Research Forums, and an elevation of the quality of WITP. Sure, I'm willing to resign and let this blow over, and I'd be willing to run for another Mod election.

I think more than anything though, with this Mod Review I'm testing the community's ethical and rational qualities. That I'm allowing my name to be tarnished in the process, well, I am not worried about how others think of me, as long as it provides the opportunity to everyone to really think about what you want for WITP. A neutral medium of exchange, or mob rule?


You set up the poll. Why do that if you don't care how others think of you?


All part of the game, my friend.


"All part of the game"? Is that what this forum and members mean to you? To play a game?


Consider for a moment that this situation provides an opportunity for the community to really think about some very important issues, like what ideas we want to include/exclude from The Plan, as well as the procedures and manner in which these ideas are presented and analyzed, and how consensus can be achieved so we can move towards action. Can't you say that you've thought more about these issues because of this current vote?



You hate me like House.

This is why I stated the best troll of all is the one no one understands.


Toot toot, all aboard the fail boat! Next stop the /b/ermuda triangle.


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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:40 am
cK_anon wrote:
Telemachos wrote:
Shalinoth wrote:
James Bond wrote:


I would agree.


This anon would agree.


Having found reason / compromise in Telemachos in the past, I know he's capable of it. But I feel now that he's not exercising any of it right now, having been backed into a corner.

Telemate, you forgot the part about trolling where it's for the lulz. I see very few lulz in this mindfuck facesave. Or anything remotely constructive, as per your own quoted ethics on trolling. I see a distracted community deprived of the focus that it was built on. I see members getting tired of the drama while you can end by performing the Service-To-Others you so praise.

If all of that was empty copy-pasta on your part, then well played. You just performed a 2-month trolling. Except, it took substantial effort and loss on your part.

No sandwiches for you.


Thank you. Thank you for talking about our focus. We all know our focus should not be on drama and shitstorms. So what should that focus be on? Besides that, who ever said that trolling has to be for the lulz?

This is the Art of War, ladies and gentlemen.

Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate.


All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.


If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.


Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate.


Is this not an information war? Trolling is deception, and can be of value, given that our opponents have engaged in such deception.

It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.

This is not war! wtf r u thinking? has he completely lost it ITS a conversation


The point I'm trying to make is that even now COINTELPRO is active on this forum, and if we do not understand our enemy or ourselves we're doomed to defeat. This is why understanding of trolling is so important, as a matter of self-defense of this community. And this IS a guerrilla information war. I mean, don't you think that all of the doxings happened for a reason other than just simple faggotry? Think about it.
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cK_6eez on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:43 am
Telemachos wrote:
Shalinoth wrote:
James Bond wrote:


I would agree.


This anon would agree.


Having found reason / compromise in Telemachos in the past, I know he's capable of it. But I feel now that he's not exercising any of it right now, having been backed into a corner.

Telemate, you forgot the part about trolling where it's for the lulz. I see very few lulz in this mindfuck facesave. Or anything remotely constructive, as per your own quoted ethics on trolling. I see a distracted community deprived of the focus that it was built on. I see members getting tired of the drama while you can end by performing the Service-To-Others you so praise.

If all of that was empty copy-pasta on your part, then well played. You just performed a 2-month trolling. Except, it took substantial effort and loss on your part.

No sandwiches for you.


Thank you. Thank you for talking about our focus. We all know our focus should not be on drama and shitstorms. So what should that focus be on? Besides that, who ever said that trolling has to be for the lulz?

This is the Art of War, ladies and gentlemen.

Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate.


All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.


If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.


Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate.


Is this not an information war? Trolling is deception, and can be of value, given that our opponents have engaged in such deception.

It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.

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largo farburn on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:44 am
Telemachos wrote:
cK_anon wrote:
Telemachos wrote:
Shalinoth wrote:
James Bond wrote:


I would agree.


This anon would agree.


Having found reason / compromise in Telemachos in the past, I know he's capable of it. But I feel now that he's not exercising any of it right now, having been backed into a corner.

Telemate, you forgot the part about trolling where it's for the lulz. I see very few lulz in this mindfuck facesave. Or anything remotely constructive, as per your own quoted ethics on trolling. I see a distracted community deprived of the focus that it was built on. I see members getting tired of the drama while you can end by performing the Service-To-Others you so praise.

If all of that was empty copy-pasta on your part, then well played. You just performed a 2-month trolling. Except, it took substantial effort and loss on your part.

No sandwiches for you.


Thank you. Thank you for talking about our focus. We all know our focus should not be on drama and shitstorms. So what should that focus be on? Besides that, who ever said that trolling has to be for the lulz?

This is the Art of War, ladies and gentlemen.

Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate.


All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.


If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.


Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate.


Is this not an information war? Trolling is deception, and can be of value, given that our opponents have engaged in such deception.

It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.

This is not war! wtf r u thinking? has he completely lost it ITS a conversation


The point I'm trying to make is that even now COINTELPRO is active on this forum, and if we do not understand our enemy or ourselves we're doomed to defeat. This is why understanding of trolling is so important, as a matter of self-defense of this community. And this IS a guerrilla information war. I mean, don't you think that all of the doxings happened for a reason other than just simple faggotry? Think about it.


In all my days on this forum you're the closest thing to cointel i've seen.
you've become that which you sought to destroy.
you either go out a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

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Sixtwelve on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:45 am
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The point I'm trying to make is that even now COINTELPRO is active on this forum, and if we do not understand our enemy or ourselves we're doomed to defeat. This is why understanding of trolling is so important, as a matter of self-defense of this community. And this IS a guerrilla information war. I mean, don't you think that all of the doxings happened for a reason other than just simple faggotry? Think about it.

I no longer have to listen to what you're saying.

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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:46 am
largo farburn wrote:
Telemachos wrote:
cK_anon wrote:
Telemachos wrote:
Shalinoth wrote:
James Bond wrote:


I would agree.


This anon would agree.


Having found reason / compromise in Telemachos in the past, I know he's capable of it. But I feel now that he's not exercising any of it right now, having been backed into a corner.

Telemate, you forgot the part about trolling where it's for the lulz. I see very few lulz in this mindfuck facesave. Or anything remotely constructive, as per your own quoted ethics on trolling. I see a distracted community deprived of the focus that it was built on. I see members getting tired of the drama while you can end by performing the Service-To-Others you so praise.

If all of that was empty copy-pasta on your part, then well played. You just performed a 2-month trolling. Except, it took substantial effort and loss on your part.

No sandwiches for you.


Thank you. Thank you for talking about our focus. We all know our focus should not be on drama and shitstorms. So what should that focus be on? Besides that, who ever said that trolling has to be for the lulz?

This is the Art of War, ladies and gentlemen.

Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate.


All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.


If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.


Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment — that which they cannot anticipate.


Is this not an information war? Trolling is deception, and can be of value, given that our opponents have engaged in such deception.

It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.

This is not war! wtf r u thinking? has he completely lost it ITS a conversation


The point I'm trying to make is that even now COINTELPRO is active on this forum, and if we do not understand our enemy or ourselves we're doomed to defeat. This is why understanding of trolling is so important, as a matter of self-defense of this community. And this IS a guerrilla information war. I mean, don't you think that all of the doxings happened for a reason other than just simple faggotry? Think about it.


In all my days on this forum you're the closest thing to cointel i've seen.
you've become that which you sought to destroy.
you either go out a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

well said +1 for the batman post

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Shalinoth on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:49 am
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In all my days on this forum you're the closest thing to cointel i've seen.
you've become that which you sought to destroy.
you either go out a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.


*Clears his throat*

And now, I need to go watch Dark Knight.

Damn you. Damn you and thank you.

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largo farburn on Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:50 am
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All Aboard the Fail/b/oat! Set Sail for Fail! Sailing on an Ocean of Piss.

Ok faggots,

Let's make some things clear about the /b/asement.

This is the place where shitty threads go to die.

This is the one place on WhatIsThePlan where you are allowed to troll/flame/be a shitcock/do a barrel roll (not really, it's always the best solution).

Don't fuck this up. No posting of dox, no encouraging acts of violence or any illegal activity.

If you see someone fucking up, upstairs, feel free to call them out. This is how an Anon forum keeps itself free of shitcocks.

Also, this board is not for creating serious bsns threads. It's where shitty serious threads go to die. Create a srs bsns thread on this board, and we'll all laugh at you.

Another point of clarification: No one and nothing is safe from trolling on the /b/ board. Especially not mods and admins. We must be egofags to want to moderate and be in charge, or some shit like that. Mods = Fags.

Lastly, you users need to take ownership of this board, and take the lead in trolling. I'm gonna get pretty damn pissed if I'm the only one trolling, and if that happens for too long, I'll just lock all the threads on this board.



Ooohhhh the irony. You started this shit storm, now you have to weather it.

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hey telemachos or should i say patrick gaines


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That seems to be a Unicorn, not a pony


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Dionysus on Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:00 am
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The point I'm trying to make is that even now COINTELPRO is active on this forum, and if we do not understand our enemy or ourselves we're doomed to defeat. This is why understanding of trolling is so important, as a matter of self-defense of this community. And this IS a guerrilla information war. I mean, don't you think that all of the doxings happened for a reason other than just simple faggotry? Think about it.

I no longer have to listen to what you're saying.




Funny thing is you never had to in the first place! AHAHAHAHA!


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Sixtwelve on Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:03 am
Dionysus wrote:
Sixtwelve wrote:
Telemachos wrote:
The point I'm trying to make is that even now COINTELPRO is active on this forum, and if we do not understand our enemy or ourselves we're doomed to defeat. This is why understanding of trolling is so important, as a matter of self-defense of this community. And this IS a guerrilla information war. I mean, don't you think that all of the doxings happened for a reason other than just simple faggotry? Think about it.

I no longer have to listen to what you're saying.




Funny thing is you never had to in the first place! AHAHAHAHA!

Oh I know, I'm just being an asswipe.

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Dionysus on Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:09 am
Sixtwelve wrote:
Dionysus wrote:
Sixtwelve wrote:
Telemachos wrote:
The point I'm trying to make is that even now COINTELPRO is active on this forum, and if we do not understand our enemy or ourselves we're doomed to defeat. This is why understanding of trolling is so important, as a matter of self-defense of this community. And this IS a guerrilla information war. I mean, don't you think that all of the doxings happened for a reason other than just simple faggotry? Think about it.

I no longer have to listen to what you're saying.




Funny thing is you never had to in the first place! AHAHAHAHA!

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largo farburn on Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:10 am
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Dionysus is my gay lover.

I no longer have to watch you and Dionysus touch each other.




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Guest on Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:11 am
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Dionysus is my gay lover.

I no longer have to watch you and Dionysus touch each other.




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Shalinoth on Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:13 am
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Funny thing is you never had to in the first place! AHAHAHAHA!


True. We didn't have to. But many people joined the site, this anon included, to see a big bold sticky thread advocating his content prior to and during criticism.

Granted, in the early days there was likely a lot of reliance of those vocal, ever-present first members to pull together some semblance of infrastructure and shared goals.

We have grown since then, considerably!
In numbers, knowledge, and caution.

It is now in the General Discussion forum.

You may now continue to [more easily] not listen to it.


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Dionysus on Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:18 am
So then, now that all of this is settled, who's working on ops? Who's making flyers/posters/stamps/tshirts/porn for us?

I'm getting things organized for the stand in my locality, and putting up more rounds of fliers as well as educating those around me about several things that are going on with the corruption of the system.

Lately it's been the Monsanto VP appointed by Obama as Senior Advisor to the FDA. Now that is spooky shit that people need to be calling up the gubbment 'bout.


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after reading the last 10 pages...i would hearby like to retract my vote, and everything positive i have said about tele...seriosly....F*uck you...


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So then, now that all of this is settled, who's working on ops? Who's making flyers/posters/stamps/tshirts/porn for us?

I'm getting things organized for the stand in my locality, and putting up more rounds of fliers as well as educating those around me about several things that are going on with the corruption of the system.

Lately it's been the Monsanto VP appointed by Obama as Senior Advisor to the FDA. Now that is spooky shit that people need to be calling up the gubbment 'bout.


You sir, can have all the rest of my internets for being so Johnny on the spot, as they say. A welcome return to order!

I say let's take it upstairs and get on with things.




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ive actually done this lmao


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ive actually done this lmao



Haha. RL Trolling.

Ur doin it rite!

*At a library near you, SOON*



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where the hell have you been?


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where the hell have you been?


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lulz!!!!!


Didn't know he was preggers.


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