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Post by The Dude on Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:11 am

I'm in Asia, so I'm a bit out of touch. I forgot this was today.

Hope there's a HUGE turnout. This is my #1 issue....
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Post by ravenpaige on Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:24 pm

The Dude wrote:I'm in Asia, so I'm a bit out of touch.

Oh, Asia. That explains why you're on at such strange hours (to me).

If you're on Twitter, there are lots of updates: #OccupyWallStreet #Sep17 and more.
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Post by The Dude on Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:35 am

This is somewhat related to Occupy wall st.

The solution is simple. Making money from money is evil. Money was meant to facilitate transactions/bartering. Catherine Austin Fitts has described the modern economy as a leach economy, and she's right. Bankers leach off the rest of society. Imagine a world where no one was allowed to profit from the creation or use of money....

http://slowmoney.org/
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Post by Malevolance on Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:23 pm

J.F.K. "Ladies and Gentleman. The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society. And we are as a people inharently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covet means for expanding it's sphere of influence. On infiltration instead of invasion. On subversion instead of elections. On intimidation instead of free choice. It is a system which has conscriptive vast material and human resources into the b uilding of a tightly nit highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligent, economic, scientific and political operations. It's preperations are concealed not published. Mistakes are burried not headlined. It's dissenters are silenced not praised. No expenditure is question and no secret is revealed. That is why he Athenian law makers decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy. I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American People. Confident that with your help man will be what he was born to be. Free and independant." John F. Kennedy (Shortly after this speach, he was assassinated)
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Post by Malevolance on Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:44 pm

"Our great industrial nation is controlled by it's system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men... who necissarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom."

Woodrow Wilson
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Post by Malevolance on Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:47 pm

A world banking system was being set up here... A super state controlled by international bankers... Acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure. The Fed has usurped the government."

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Post by Malevolance on Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:49 pm

"Under the Federal Reserve Act panics are scientifically created. The present panic is the first scientifically created one, worked out as we figure a mathematical equation" Charles Lindbergh
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Post by Malevolance on Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:52 pm

"I believe that privaate banks are more dangerous than standing armies... if the American people ever allow private banks to controll the issue of currency... The banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children wake up homeless on the continant their fathers conquered."

Thomas Jefferson
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Post by Malevolance on Sat Sep 24, 2011 7:54 pm

"If you want to remain slaves of the bankers and pay for the costs of your own slavery, let them continue to create money and control the nation's credit"

Sir Joshua Stamp
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Post by The Dude on Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:11 am

Malevolance wrote:"I believe that privaate banks are more dangerous than standing armies... if the American people ever allow private banks to controll the issue of currency... The banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children wake up homeless on the continant their fathers conquered."

Thomas Jefferson
According to the Monticello Archives, this is a bogus quote.
http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/private-banks-quotation

I dislike that its so-often used. But it's a point well-taken, and not out of keeping with Jefferson's views of the topic.
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Post by Malevolance on Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:35 pm

Good to know. It would seem, based on what was read on that site... that is assuming the information on that site is accurate (anyone can make a website out of their home these days and many people have proven that many things are in attempt at being discredited untruthfully)... it would seem as though this is more of a dramatized interpritation of what someone believes he meant... and it sounded good so it stuck.
Indeed the front page of the site states "Monticello is the only historic house in the U.S. on the United Nations' World Heritage List." which makes it a site that I personally can't trust anyway. Just the involvement of the U.N. in anyway, in my opinion, automatically discredits it. Especially on this topic which is something that they have been trying to keep quiet for longer than we can even know.

But, I will keep this under advisement until I find out any further information on this particular quote.
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Post by ravenpaige on Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:16 pm

I don't know if anyone else is continuing to watch Occupy Wallstreet, but you can see a live stream from New York herehttp://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution

Pretty interesting. Right now their interviewing a writer who worked/works with Anonymous on the HB Gary hacked emails.
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Post by The Dude on Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:56 am

Malevolance wrote:Indeed the front page of the site states "Monticello is the only historic house in the U.S. on the United Nations' World Heritage List." which makes it a site that I personally can't trust anyway. Just the involvement of the U.N. in anyway, in my opinion, automatically discredits it. Especially on this topic which is something that they have been trying to keep quiet for longer than we can even know.
Dude!

Monticello is a National Historic Landmark just outside Charlottesville, Virginia, United States. It was the estate of Thomas Jefferson, the principal author of the United States Declaration of Independence, third President of the United States, and founder of the University of Virginia; it is also, at his direction, the site of Jefferson's burial place.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monticello

Monticello was his house! Turned into a museum. It contains his personal library and many of his writings. It's a historic site, declared by the UN as important to world heritage. This isn't a conspiracy theory, and not everyone/everything associated with the UN is evil...

http://whc.unesco.org/en/list

Check the list. The Great Wall of China, They Pyramids, Taj Mahal, and other historic sites are listed. There's no association between UNESCO and Monticello.
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Post by Malevolance on Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:32 am

I do completely understand your trust in this link. And I do truelly have respect for the research you have done and the wisdom and knowledge you have expressed. I also understand that the conclusions you have come to are not without research, understanding and long hard concideration on your part. However, I cannot ignore the things I have come to believe because of the studies I have done and the things I have seen either.



I will attempt to do my best to keep this post on point with the original topic of Occupy Wall Street.



After the things I've been learning about and the bills, and official documents and interviews with senitors, leaked and hacked classified documents and videos, T.V. stations admitting to puttig subliminal messages in T.V., the previous president of the central bank admitting to controlling the media, quotes from even presidents that have been voice recorded making similar statements to that quote... I have no doubt that they will go to any length and cover every angle they can to cover up what is really going on. That's like saying no one ever tampered with the bible in an attempt to control the population... The entire bible was created by Ceasar Constantine, a sun worshiping pagan(which is why church is held sunday instead of saturday now) to KILL the true Christian movement once and for all. The original Christian movement was a reblion revolution resistance movment. So, evidently they effectively killed that because that isn't anything like the Christianity I saw growing up or studied about in semenary school.

It's not even a theory anymore that the banks rule the governments and that the U.N. is taking over the world and that they are trying to keep us pacified by any means they can. Have you seen what original purpose of Anonymous was? Original Anonymous videos that came out declairing what it is that they are and what they are here for? Why are we occupying Wall Street if this isn't what is going on? The involvement, in any way, of the U.N. in anything tells me it can't be trusted. I have no doubt of the lengths they will go to in order to silence and cover up anything that they can that exposes their true plans.

On the Issue of Banking:
"Anonymous Follows The Money Trail"
https://youtu.be/43OcaL96tKk This video probably did the most to convince me and was the most shocking of all of them.
"A99 OpESR Communication #1 (Bank of America You've Been Served) https://youtu.be/ErO7Xew3T3Q
"A99 OpESR Communication #2 Cntrl-Alt-Bernanke" https://youtu.be/XySGw-g2tyk This video was response to the global banking system ignoring the first video.
"Occupy Wall Street Protests" https://youtu.be/cG_TKAJyV6k This video, in my opinion, a kid best describes the purpose of why Occupy Wall Street is taking place.
"An Anonymous Message To Nato" https://youtu.be/U8HRFBviUDs This Video goes into detail about some of the information Anonymous Hackers hacked from Nato showing that illegal contracts were made by world banks to spy on citizens.
"World Bank Creating Poverty (BBC NEWS NIGHTLY)" https://youtu.be/a6-XKr9beNk
"World Banker Makes Stunning Confession" https://youtu.be/mOwZwkhFemQ The Former President of the World Bank, James Wolfenshon, makes a stunning confession as he addresses graduate students at Standford university. He reveals the inside hand of world domination from past, present and into the future.
"Why you are a slave" https://youtu.be/rrJjpTCbxyo 1790 Mayer Amschel Rothchild states, "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws." This video goes over the history of the Banking system in America.



On the Issue of depopulation and controlling human behavior through war, vaccines, food and water:
"Bayer Knowingly sold HIV contaminated Vaccines says internal documents"
https://youtu.be/Mijd-PFf9Fk Mainstream Media news Report.
"Vaccine pioneer admits to adding cancer causing agents to vaccines" https://youtu.be/13QiSV_lrDQ In this video Dr. Maurice Hilleman admits purposely adding Aids and Lukhemia to polio vaccines, and laughing about it.
"Bill Gates Admits Vaccines Are Used for Human Depopulation" https://youtu.be/6WQtRI7A064
"Obama Depopulation Policy Exposed" https://youtu.be/ho-0SHFEgGo Historian Anton Chankin exposes Obama's depopulation plan as being no different than that of Hitler's before the pannel.
"Rockefeller's Speach for Depopulation" https://youtu.be/bI0fnRbhHFo
"World depopulation plan exposed on Fox" https://youtu.be/xGEbLJfDnSY
"Leaked pentagon video - Flu vaccine used to modify human behavior" https://youtu.be/2MuXgpl2Sxg
"Genetically altered species and poisoned food along with your air, water and food supply, the ultimate secret exposed" https://youtu.be/derZbxZEMcI In this video official documentation is shown proving that not only did they know, but intended to poison your food and water to sterilize you, pacify you and kill you.
"Texas radio active water supply conspiracy - Rick Perry was in on it too" https://youtu.be/5NhaBTiurm0 Mainstream Media Report.



On the Issue of Government control of Media to brainwash and indoctrinate the Public:
"Anonymous Message to the global Media"
https://youtu.be/nkxn73p_LSk

I doubt this is a subject I need to touch on too much. I doubt anyone is ignorant of the fact Media does this. So, I will refrain from posting a lot of videos covering this unless asked for them.

On the issue of Fema, Concentration Camps, Matial Law, Killing U.S. "Terrorists", Fussion Centers:
"Conspiracy Theory Police State Fema Camps"
https://youtu.be/DXCYNpP9nMk This is the first in a 3 part series of 15 minute videos showing the evidence of this, Fema camps as prison camps and Fusion centers, Complete with interviews of people who run the Camps and People who work in the Fusion centers and Voted on the bills.
"MTV Holocaust Commercial - History Repeats Itself" https://youtu.be/ZFmkwmc1xKY These videos were banned from MTV and not allowed to be aired.
"Millions to be killed under Agenda 21" https://youtu.be/Us8Yv4YLz9k This video goes over 3 books sold by the U.N. making their agenda public information.
"Homeland Security Plans To Kill U.S. Citezens" https://youtu.be/KaztexKNf_o HR8791 gets presented by Rep. John Haller, noticably shaken by what he reads, and then Voted upon.


Here is a 6 part video series that goes over the basics of it all. Of course, as with anything, there are mistakes in it. But, for the most part it gives an excelent overview of what is really going on. As J.F.K. stated, this has been going on since before ancient Greece "And that is why the Athenian law makers decreed it a crime to shrink from controversy" https://youtu.be/Wt1Lo-WPDQg



Anyway, my point is, I really don't doubt the lengths they will go to, after having seen all of that(and this is just part of what I have seen and heard), in order to brainwash and enslave us just so they can have security over their status in the world for as long as it lasts as the true world leaders that control the money supply of the world. Perhapse you are right, maybe they truelly believe that quote to be false. Maybe the U.N. had nothing to do with tampering with that quote. That does not change my opinion that as long as the U.N. is involved in something, I do not trust anything from it.

Everything I have just posted up here is the Very Reasons Anonymous first anounced it's existance, they say so right in their videos. These are the very reasons why Occupy Wall Street is taking place right now. The entire purpose of Anonymous is to put an end to all of these plans by putting an end to the Global Banking System and an end to Censorship and bring free and open access to information.

This is something I have been supporting for over 10 years now. I have been doing everything I can to boycot banks and learn more about what is really going on with all of this for over 10 years. Anonymous was a sigh of relief for me. Now, I'm not the only one! I do find it dissapointing that many people do not even understand the goal of Anonymous or why that goal is even in place. But, that is something that should be expected. The goal here is not to improve the current economy. The goal is to illiminate the entire central banking system and it's currency from our planet! As long as it exists we can never have security of a free and independent future for us or our future generations. And simply using a credit union will not accomplish this. At best, using a credit union will only slow down the goal of the Central Banks. And not by much.

Therefore, the goal is to set up a system, in our personal lives, where we don't even need jobs or money. Many people do not have the capability for this. Many people do. Farms. Livestock. Crops. WIndmills, Watermills. Water wells. Fishing ponds. Log Cabbins. All built upon land bought with silver. Protected behind a tax exempt church charity built upon that land that does not take funding from any government agency.

The goal is not to crash the economy. It is to rip the control of the economy out of the hands of the Central and World Banks. To bring people together. To bring back freedom of speach. To bring back freedom of information:



"The Plan is now live, Phase 1 Initiated. War against the system" https://youtu.be/j_9T1SPJXRI The end of this video discusses the need to invest in gold and silver, produce your own food, etc...

"What Are We Capable Of - THIS IS ANONYMOUS!" https://youtu.be/gP9q61Fjlqo Notice the Lion That is the World and what the chains around it say! Vaccines, censorship, Police State, Global Banks etc...

"Anonymous; This is what our freedom has become" https://youtu.be/NNsdN5lRbqg A video about our police state

Anonymous declairs war on the system https://youtu.be/ET4Ki5Tr_CQ

"Anonymous to the machine: you will rust and die from the blood of our hearts." https://youtu.be/9TG4RTwctlw This Video is about coming together and being compassionate towards eachother.



So, my point being, these are not merely my ideas. These are not thoughts I have alone, emotions that are dormant within only me... but that I share with Anonymous. I'm not just paranoid. Well, unless Anonymous is too.
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Post by ravenpaige on Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:04 am

Malevolance wrote: I'm not just paranoid. Well, unless Anonymous is too.[/u]

I haven't had time to watch any of the videos (although I believe I've seen a couple already). But I will work my way through them. I just wanted to post a quick comment here.

"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."

Old joke, with some truth.

Some of the things you mention tend to make me incredulous. But others, mainly because of unique experiences I have had, I want to say, "yeah, that makes sense to me."

So, clearly I need to do more research, and in general, I think we all need more hard data. Because, of course, my personal anecdotes really don't qualify as solid proof, even to me.

But I think that's part of why we're here, at this forum...to try to sort out the truth as best as we can.

I do think the goal you mention, that of creating a sustainable world, is very laudable, and very difficult. I've been working toward that for years, and lately it seems like one step forward, two steps back.

Well, that's enough for now until I see more of the videos.

On a side note, if I can figure out how, I think I will split this thread so this information about Anonymous Goals can be renamed to reflect what's being discussed. I guess I should title it Anonymous Goals? Or suggest another topic name.
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Post by The Dude on Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:14 am

Dude!

Crazy post. Why not break it down into a series of different threads as active research in Current Research sub-forum? This post is almost certainly tl;dr.

There's a lot of different ideas in this single post; try and break it down into bite-sized pieces.
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Post by Malevolance on Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:05 pm

Ok, done. I have devided everything by topic to make it easier to go through and digest in small "bites". Please feel free to delete my posts under this topic Very Happy
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Post by ARTnonymous on Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:49 pm

I'm following occupy wallstreet *very* closely, I wake up most mornings to live feeds and reddit news on that. Media blackout seems slowly un-blacking out, and other cities are gearing up their solidarity occupations. Exciting stuff, difficult to watch sometime (the Tony Balonga stuff, his pepperspraying of fenced in young women and subsequent dox'ing by anon) well, that was difficult to watch since I was going through my own little drama with some authority figures at the time... Peaceful resistance is truly the way, or perhaps I should say "clever trollish" peaceful resistance. Some of the chanting and citizen media techniques to document and diffuse violent situations have been nothing short of amazing, very smart young people some of them! I feel that my generation's reputation for apathy (gen x-er here) may be less accurate than it was in the 90's.
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